Summary
In a Fox News interview, Donald Trump argued that Ukraine should not have resisted Russia’s 2022 invasion, claiming Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy should have made a deal with Vladimir Putin.
Trump criticized Zelenskyy for choosing to fight, compared the military strength of Russia and Ukraine, and said he could have ended the war quickly through negotiations.
Trump’s stance contrasts with Joe Biden’s strong support for Ukraine, including aid and sanctions on Russia.
Of course he did. Trump would never stand up to a bully, he would never defend the weak against the nasty. That would take courage, but Trump has only cowardice and sycophacny for bullies.
Trump is a person who sucks up to bullies, and punches down on the bullied, through and through.
“They’re saying ‘the war is tomorrow’ – this causes panic on the market and elsewhere," Zelensky, Jan 2022 in response to US warnings of imminent Russian invasion.
Zelensky didn’t “choose to fight” because Russia insisted there would be no fight right up until it crossed the border. It would’ve been considered a sneak attack but for the US telling everyone Russia was invading for a full month in advance. There was no choice offered to Zelensky and never has been since, unless you count Russia’s current stance of basically “give us all your weapons and maybe then we’ll negotiate”/
But the US has the most powerful military on the planet under president Trump? Power is useless if it is not used and guided well.
Trump is a little bitch. Doesn’t know what being a man is, because if he did, he’d do the opposite of this.
It’s worse. I doubt he knows what being a human is…
What a POS
Does he really believe this, or is this redirected anger because he’s finally figured out that he can’t, in fact, just solve it?
Probably, Putin told him to pound sand, and then OPEC basically just ignored him when collapsing oil prices was the next idea.
Putin didn’t tell him to pound sand. Putin holds the leash. Everything Donald Trump says and does is to advance Russian interests.
I see little evidence of that. At most Putin has a small amount of leverage on him. Basically, there’s just a lot of stuff good for Putin Trump could do but doesn’t.
It’s only the first week.
In his previous term, he had to be forced by Congress to keep sanctions against Russia in place. Getting rid of them was one of his first priorities.
He also has been publicly threatening to economically destroy Russia for the last week, so there, a bit of evidence both ways.
Meanwhile, he could order assassinations in Ukraine if he wanted to and nobody could stop him.
Trump says a lot of shit. He also said Ukraine shouldn’t have fought back.
Actions speak louder than words.
His pro-Russia actions are way more weak than I would allow if I were Putin and actually controlled him, though.
Because of the separation of powers and checks and balances we have in the US, he doesn’t have unilateral power to do whatever he wants. He can typically only inch toward Putin’s goals. Why do you think he is trying to weaken our relationships with our allies through tariffs and talk of land grabs?
Glad to see the ghost of Neville Chamberlain is still around.
C’mon, if we’re doing WWII analogies he doesn’t get to be an allied leader, even if Chamberlain was a really bad one.
Preparing the people of Greenland…
And Canada?
The 51st state
In his inaugeration trump literally mentioned he wants the US to grow in territory.
Why would he say something so easily disproven at this point? If Ukraine should not have fought back they would have been defeated already.
Why would he say something so easily disproven at this point?
His reputation for honesty and good judgement is ruined!
This is literally all the “anti war” arguments. George Washington should have just stopped resisting the red coats.
Washington was part of a revolution. This is an invasion. More like Russia should have just let Napoleon have it.
It’s kind of a revolution though because it all started with Maydan and the ousting of Russian puppet Yanukovitch.
Sure, but that makes it entirely unrelatable to the Americans making these arguments.
Fair enough. How about this?
It’s like letting the SCARY EVIL (mysteriously suddenly nonexistent) IMMIGRANT MEXICAN CARAVAN INVADERS just come in and have the US.
Are they eating our pets though?
Not if you eat them first!
I wish I could eat my puppies and have their scruffy faces and waggy tails with me all the time! Petting them would be difficult…
😋
Obviously. That’s what brown people do, right? The clearly authoritative (checks notes) rich white Nazi on TV told me.
Trump is a malignant narcissist, and I’m pretty sure that’s a requirement to have that opinion.
It’s easy to say don’t fight back when you’re not the one getting beaten up and mugged
Well, what was Ukraine wearing? Maybe they were asking for it?
Obviously /s
Your leader is stupid and a complete wuss.
Your leader.
Our President. By election. He isn’t wanted by many, and is definitely no leader.
The annoying orange should not be discussing matters he knows shit about…
But then the only things he can talk about are rape, treason, paying for sex, and shitting his pants
Dude come on. That’s not true.
He also cheats at golf a lot.
That’s impossible, because he can’t keep quiet.
And knows shit
So Ukraine, hear me out… Eliminate Trump and Putin during the negotiations, blame it on someone else. Everyone will thank you, and we’ll get over it.
The problem is who will replace them. Does Putin even have an official successor (like the US VP), or would this create a power vacuum?
The Prime Minister is de jure the acting president in case of a vacancy. Given the strength of legal institutions in Russia Mikhail Mishustin would have some work ahead of him to actually hold power.
So believe it or not back when the USA had its shit together we had this thing called the CIA and boy were they pretty good at identifying and exploiting power vacuums to the advantage of our country.
Downside is you’ll have JD Vance as president. Unsure that’ll be any better.
Vance has a brain, which is both scarier and more reassuring at the same time.
Vance has no political capital like Trump. He doesn’t have a cult he can use to threaten to primary people. Once Trump is gone all of this loses momentum.
Will be interesting to watch the power vacuum when Trump dies. It will be a great opportunity for the democrats to make progress. I’m sure they’ll find a way to fuck that up too.
JD Vance only eats the cat food part of lucky charms pass it on
OK. good. good.
I’m not sure anybody would rally behind him. He had the lowest likability score of any VP pick since 2000 - even below Sarah “I Can See Russia From My House!” Palin.
Palin was rocking the MILF vibe and, for better or worse, took her conservative creds mostly seriously.
Vance is date rapey, nakedly ambitious, and completely owned by Thiel.
You’ll have millions/billions of people willing to be your alibi. “According to people calling in, Zelensky was at 300,000 bars, sleeping on 1,250,000 couches, and attending 13 Bar Mitvahs that night, so he couldn’t have killed Trump and Putin.”
"Absolutely top-notch guy. Literally omnipresent.
Like me and all my friends were having individualized, concurrent, and meaningful bottle episodes with the guy.
Just the consummate gentleman."
I’m sure at this point if Zelenskyy pulled out a wellrod, popped both of them and said “Slava Ukraini” there would be a round of applause.
Firstly, he’d need two Welrods. Those things aren’t exactly quick to reload.
It would almost certainly be a requirement to prosecute and then likely lock Zelenskyy up if he did that, even if he might be doing us all a favour. And even the nicest prison is still a prison.
It would be better if there was a way to have the targets neutralise each other.
Nah, make the entire operation look like a Russian assassination plot on Z went wrong. People in US intelligence that are currently involved with Ukraine would definitely help facilitate that story.
Requirement from whom? Who would enforce it?
I know the obvious answer is the ICC, but they currently have warrants for both Putin and Netanyahu, so clearly that’s not an effective threat.
Vance. I think he and his puppet masters would love the excuse to join with putin’s past allies. Russia gets the land, united states of stupid gets
half the resourcescontracts to aid in building the ‘infrastructure’ and such to process the resources.Straight up killing a known criminal is not the accepted way to mete out justice, no matter how right it seems. We have (international) courts for a reason, even when the case is open and shut, and even if the same courtesy would be unlikely if the situation was reversed.
i honestly don’t think anyone would put him to trial. like suddenly everyone you know was with the president of ukraine at the time of the incident. and sure, that’s not what questions the ICC would be asking, but that’s what we’d all be saying
I’m indefinitely with him at a pizza party
Exactly I mean, the USA isn’t going to start a war with an ally over a shitbag placeholder president like Trump. As for Russia they’re already fucking war so what are they going to do? If anything set it up so it looks like a Russian assassination attempt on Z went wrong and got Putin and Trump instead. United States should have been at war with Russia since 2016 anyway. Now would be a great time to join in considering Russian combat capacity is at nearly zero, and they’re currently utilizing the zap branigan meat wave tactic.
At this point if that actually happened China would take a long hard look and go no thank you sir. They ain’t doing shit to defend Russia. Hell, if we promised them a portion of it, they’d help us take it
If he does this, I’m getting Heroiam Slava tattooed on my chest.
