Ha! Imagine western nations listening to their citizens instead of their rulers.
Contrary to countries in the East where they have all the freedoms, like, say, China? Russia?
What are you trying to say exactly?
Every country has to wrestle with their own form of oligarchy. There is always a subgroup of power hungry individuals that want to be ruling the kingdom.
I mean yeah, makes sense. Russia is a direct threat to us all. Fuck the US if they think their egg prices are more important than European security and not having dictators have their ways.
American here and I agree. Our government is a disaster right now so it’s better to focus on something actionable, like defeating Putin.
your government are all nazis. and half of your population are fascists. we (ukraine and eu) can’t trust you, and hopefully we will learn from it this time.
the NAZIs actually based some of thier systems on the americans racist policies, like segegation and what not. and we never actually eradicated our nazis sympathesizers from the 40s, they just passed it on to the next gen and the next after that.
How dare you lob facts at us as if they’re insults…
Am US citizen living in the UK. Can confirm.
Am UK citizen living in US. Halp.
Happy to send you branstons pickle or Cadbury or something to ease your anxiety, though.
Idk why you think me of all people is gonna help you lol. I’m not trading places. No take backsies! Find a Farage supporter and ask them!
They’re right too. The US has the luxury of turning a blind eye. The UK and Europe does not.
As they always do. It’s easy to build your “great” empire if all your wars and enemies are far away.
I think the UK can use this as an opportunity to improve relations with the EU, or to at least get a trade partner in Ukraine and to take a chunk of Russian assets. You get to be a good guy, and get rich by confiscating Putin’s coffers.
Seriously, send in troops, and maybe the navy if Turkey permits. Do what American’t.
Ask Turkey if they want to join in again for some Crimean War II? We killed a bunch of Russians before, why not again.
Half of our military bases are occupied by the Americans and we need your permission to do anything.
Am UK citizen, can confirm.
A heart breaking romance.
“Hey US, I think we should take a break. It’s not me, it’s you… I know you’ve been cheating on me with Putin”
Coming soon to a theater near you.
The simple reality is that it is not possible to maintain good relations with the US. Donald Trump is an idiot and a fascist whose agenda is driven by his whims as much as anything else. Starmer could bend over backwards to appease His Orange Majesty on every issue and Trump would still fuck the UK just because.
I can’t believe we’re betrayingUkraine for no reason.
Oh wait… Actually I can believe it, i knew it was going to happen, and I voted against it.
It’s not for no reason, it’s to make Putin happier, maybe extort a bunch of mineral rights out of Ukraine. See, plenty of reason…
Sure, you’re right about that. I should have said no good reason.
I wouldn’t say it’s just more important, I’d say it’s a moral imperative to support Ukraine’s fight for it’s sovereign land over keeping buddy-buddy with a government running rampant with corruption and Russian puppetry
Agreed. I would rather the UK have fewer allies of a higher moral calibre than play sycophant to a fascist cabal of degenerates.
Not to mention that once Russia is done with Ukraine they’re not going to stop. Defending Ukraine is defending Europe.
Exactly. If anyone thinks Russia will stop at Ukraine, they’re a fool
So education will be reformed and we’ll be force to learn Russian and vote for one party/president only?
Uh, can anybody stop currents news from auto generating bullshit on a daily basis?
Wow, when you straw man, you straw man hard.
Sincerely speaking, I almost preferred the times when covid was the main topic compared to what comes out of news’ mouth today
American here: no objections whatsoever. This is the correct answer. Our government is a bag of dicks, and a lot of us hate it too.
American. Ashamed to say that i briefly thought, “maybe zelenaky can save us” - like he doesn’t have enough going on! We desperately need for someone strong and charismatic to stand up to orange Jesus!
We had that chance. We picked Biden instead. Now it’s “find out” time.
Am American, 1000% agree.
As a Canadian you can’t trust anything coming out of the Musk /Trump White House. Us in Canada no longer consider them friends.
They’re threatening daily to take Canada by whatever means necessary. That’s not an ally, that’s a threat. Canada needs to protect itself, and the British people are quite right to back Ukraine. Trump is working with Putin to hand Ukraine to Russia. Russia will not stop its ambitions there and it is a threat to all of Europe.
Yesterday Trump threatened to pull US troops out of Europe if the EU did not agree to his and Putin’s plan for Ukraine. It’s a very clear threat: give Ukraine to Russia or we give you to Russia. Of course the USA in its current state would not defend Europe anyway. To me it looks like the plan is for Trump to seize Canada, Greenland, Panama, etc., while Putin grabs as much of Europe as he can.
Under these conditions what is NATO? Trump is deliberately destroying it.
So the UK, Canada and Europe need to stand firm against the alliance of the USA, Russia and those European countries that have gone over to fascism. The very existence of our countries is at stake.
And watch out for the far right at home. Their loyalties do not lie with their country.
Under these conditions what is NATO?
Already-preexisting integration of most EU armies (and the rest aren’t completely out of the loop) as well as Canada Turkey, Norway, and Iceland.
The long and short of it is if the US should bail out of NATO what is left is an absolute behemoth of a force with severe shortcomings in power projection and strategic airlift capacity. The latter only until Ukraine is admitted they have Antonov. Not sure whether we want much power projection but the lift capacity is a shortfall.
