IDGAF about what the US is cooking up when it comes to political definitions, much less so when they disagree with the rest of the world. Anti-capitalism is necessary to be on the left, it’s not negotiable.

Just like you wouldn’t call someone who denies god a Christian. There’s no “but they deny god a bit less than Richard Dawkins, so they’re more Christian”: No, they’re still denying god, they can’t be Christian. If they consider themselves Christian despite denying god, then it stands to reason that they’re quite confused about what being a Christian entails, don’t you think?

They very much expect the SPD to defend things like co-determination laws to the death, though. They also expect the SPD to implement referenda that say that landlords with over 1000 apartments should be expropriated, that they’re dragging their feet on that kind of stuff (“but the markets might get uneasy and that would have consequences”) is one of the reasons why they don’t poll well.

Can you imagine a US city the size of Berlin pushing through a referendum to expropriate landowners? That’s how far apart the overton windows are. There’s hardly even overlap.

Adam Smith, in modern terms, would be a social liberal. Probably some kind of ordoliberal. It’s Marx where the modern definition of capitalism comes from and it’s pretty much “what capitalists do, systemically, to stay in power”: Accumulate their capital, evade regulation, generate monopolies, seek rents, etc.

Socdems are leftist, even if you might disagree with their whole non-revolutionary approach. Definitely more leftist than the billionaire-creating CCP which yes is in the G20. China is part of that club. The whole EU, constitutionally, is not capitalist but a social market economy.

I can’t be Left wing unless I want to destroy capitalism?

Yes. Yes indeed you can’t. How to go about that is up for grabs but if you think that leftism is all about preserving the system that allows oligarchs to accumulate more capital and power, to allow a minority to exploit the majority, I don’t know what to tell you.

…besides that you’re probably American because only y’all are so damn confused about the whole topic.

Ukraine is no less European than Norway or the UK. Or Belarus, for that matter. Or Russia. The trouble we have with Russia is that they’re the only one of the family not having sworn off imperialism, or at least switched to soft-power imperialism, and before Euromaidan it wasn’t clear how much of a grasp Russia’s empire still had in Ukraine. Seemed to look better than in Belarus, but not to a degree one could count on.

Also there’s some wibbles about Western Europe thinking Ostpolitik would work with Far Eastern Europe, after all, it worked so well with Central Europe. Poles and the Baltics have been shouting “you’re idiots” from the top of their lungs, we ignored them, considered their shouting to be the result of PTSD. Which yes I mean it is but also they were right.

Meanwhile, Nestle is currently asking the Commission to please not dilute the supply chain act. Nestle, fucking Nestle, saying that regulations that require companies to enforce human rights standards abroad are good for their business, please keep them, don’t listen to the lobbying of smaller companies.

Not everyone is so caught-up in supply-side trickle-down economics as the US. Nestle sees profit in African markets, that’s a giant pool of consumer demand, they don’t want to be seen as slave holders, they also don’t want others to have a competition advantage in markets that don’t care as much about slave labour, so they’re arguing that those standards they profit from should apply to everyone, everywhere.

Loses something in translation like that. I’d say

JUST DO BAN THAT SHIT GONE ALREADY

AWAY INTO THE SHADOW REALM

Extra points for the use of capital Eszett.

Nations, towns, families, your left hand agreeing with the right, all just treaties, got you. Maybe go a bit easier on the reductionism.

The EU is way more than just a treaty.

NATO could crumble and Germany and France would still come to Lithuania’s aid, they’re an EU member. With NATO gone UK might technically not be on the hook any more but they’d still get into the fray, despite their faults and their insistence that they’re not they’re still Europeans.

The actually difficult part would be stopping Poland from bee-lining for Moscow, nukes be damned. They don’t spend 4.7% of GDP because they plan on sitting back.