They call negotiations a thing. It’s as if someone is saying the opposite! today, the foreign ministry of the islamic republic of iran, a member of the security ministry, talks with the world and makes contracts with other countries. Any country is accepted except usa and israel, The Zionist regime, because it is not an state. Its a gang of criminals.
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cant believe the supreme leader of iran is a certified bad guy i mean what did israel and uncle sam ever do to him nothing thats what im saying i mean
Israel is evil everyone knows it
uh source benjamin netenyahu gives me 30 knishes a day and ayatollah khomenei gives me 0 i mean its clear who is more evil here
Funny the bunny man
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I mean he’s not wrong.
Fascinating how several people in here want to give this monster credit for saying something that isn’t horrifically offensive for a change. It’s a real, “but Hitler did like dogs” moment.
It’s okay to acknowledge that Hitler loved his dogs. It’s okay to acknowledge that Iran assessment of Israel being run by war criminals is accurate. It’s okay to acknowledge reality. We’re just so used to manipulative elements using these point to push extreme ideologies that we’ve forgotten what genuine freedom of speech/thought looks like.
No. It’s not okay to give monsters credit for anything. Even if they say something that is accurate. You give credit to the people who say that who are not oppressive theocratic mass murderers.
Sooo… Not a lot of world leaders around that aren’t involved in supporting genocide or terrorism these days. We just ignore everyone’s opinions then?
It is, objectively, okay to state a fact. You are entangling this with people who do so disingenuously to try to humanize monsters or soften extremist ideologies. That’s not the case here. It is in fact the opposite: Israel is run by war criminals and the fact that they’ve given Iran a means to deflect from their own atrocious behavior is a point worth noting and a general trend in the societal decline of this world that we all should be hyper aware of.
You are acting like stating a fact is always devoid of context. Facts do not exist in a vacuum. The world is not a giant game of Trivial Pursuit.
In this context, saying he is right is giving him credit. Giving him credit adds to his legitimacy.
Facts, by definition, are devoid of context. They don’t change depending on who states them! How can you have a reasonable conversation about anything at all if you can’t agree on some baseline facts. That’s how the fascists operate - everything the orange turd says is a fact, so you can’t reason with them.
Not the person you replied to, but I’d like to offer another perspective
There’s a difference between describing things, and giving someone credit.
Hitler loving his dogs doesn’t make him not responsible for heinous crimes. It seems odd to me to suggest we not acknowledge that that’s what people who do monstrous things look like
They’re messy and complicated and have traits most would assess as good, and in many ways that only adds to their danger. They don’t look like storybook villians, they look like human beings. They love dogs. At times they say reasonable, even compelling things. They make art. They had childhoods, and families, and loved ones. They suffer and bleed and experience joy like any human being does. And the closer you look, the more human they get.
And then they kill 17 million people.
Its better than defending trump No one is perfect and In the book of jews its written whoever sleeps with men should be killed Leviticus 20:13 See no one is perfect so stop insulting him Because i know how to insult you people who try to make resistance weaker and weaker
What in the everloving wordsalad is this?
I think after the last few weeks the number is more like millions and millions.
Millions and millions of what? Supporters of a horrible theocrat that oppresses his people, especially the women, and helps Russia murder Ukrainians? Just because he doesn’t like Israel? I hope not, but I have no faith in humanity left.
Of people who now see what Cheeto in Chief has already destroyed and how this despot is similar in many ways.
Okay, so how about giving credit to the ones who are not theocratic monsters rather than the ones who are?
The article is about these two monsters.
Right. And you’re giving one of them credit. Don’t. He doesn’t deserve it whether he’s right or wrong. Ever.
His people huh ? Its not his people Its zionists And besides everyone sides with him Because he is a good guy And you are the bad guy here capitalist
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I hate you i hate you i hate you you are making me sad and angry stop making fun of me ! 😡
sounds like someone needs to find elohim
I said sorry to him about that i just got angry and said something i didnt want to say
its ok dont say it again or you will enter jewish hell
Ok ☺️
woa woa buddy o pal is there something wrong with being jewish
I WONT delete it and i hate you dont talk about me meanie i DONT want you to say my name
I didnt want to TROLL YOU Ah I just liked you thats all
My later account was banned because they thought im an spammer Besides im only talking about normal stuff
This whole post is a fucking feverdream
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We should have listened when Khomeini called the US the great Satan.
There is a name for people that will support whoever as long as they dislike US and the “west”.
Should we have listened to all the other stuff too? Like all the subjugation and theocratic rule?
I agree with Hitler on not eating meat. That doesn’t mean I’m going to praise him for being a vegetarian.
Also he doesnt have any power all power is in the hand of president which is chosen by peoples votes
What subjugations are you talking about ?
Sorry, not interested in further communication with a person who defends autocrats and theocracies, lies that queer people rape others into being queer and calls me their friend when I have already told them we are not friends.
Enjoy your duplicitous behavior.
Heyyyyyy cutie talk with me im sorry if i made you sad Its just that i already know that he is a good guy Its kinda wrong to accuse people because of the way they govern And he is not a theocrat
Im not duplicitous 😭 Please dont make fun of me Im just trying to spread this good mans will And im doing it by myself no one really told me to do so
I WASNT TALKING ABOUT QUEER PEOPLE ABOUT HAVING SEX WITH OTHERS i meant some people are out there which spread having wrong relationship with others like raping and such which is shown in all corn videos
Israel made me agree with a religious dictator. Fuck you Israel.
There is not a certain proof about that
No, the drones and weapons used by Russia in Ukraine which are a national export product of Iran, with Iranian text on them, which are found in Ukraine, with loads of photo and video evidence, is just a coincidence.
The official statement from the Iranian government they would support Russia with weapons and drones, they are talkonk probably about a different Russia right?
Im sorry but i dont want to talk about it any more I said it once
Ostrich tactics, nice 👌
I dont have time for a rude person who talks without any source Thats all blocked
Says the guy who claims a dictator is all good, “trust me”.
Iran helps Russia build drones
Proof Russia used Iranian made drones
Do I need to continue? Or did you really block me? The best tactic in a discussion you cannot win is to block the other person. Again, ostrich tactics.
He is not a dictator His is merely defending innocent people
no he is a dicator and that’s good I heard that from a documentary named 1984
Firsyly thats a novel Secondly if you think like that then all of our parents are also dictators because they do force us to do good
yes exactly youre getting it now
He is not a dictator
lmao. Drink more kool-aid, brotha. Does he also not poop or fart like Jong-Un?
You cant talk like a normal person And i said i wont talk with rude people
Don’t you hate that you have to agree with someone you despise when he says something about yourself. Only hope is US and Israel doesn’t double down on its tomfoolery.
The enemy of your enemy is not necessarily your friend. Shitty people can be right sometimes and still be shitty.
My friend why do you call him shitty it doesnt make sense ! You are talking about those protests ? Oh my friend you arent in iran to see it for yourself If you shout death to israel people would just kill you Because all of people in iran side with zionists Also those protestors did destroy the cities a lot they destroyed trees and cars Why dont they tell you these stuff ? Oh my friend you are merely mistaken
My wife is Iranian. Her family does not side with the Zionists.
Most of them do sode with zionists And yes you said a good thing Its mostly between men who side with zionists And that also has a reason Which comes back to sexual sicknesses That men do have
Why do you despise him my friend ?
Yeah yeah, your government is convinced you’re not against them with your bullshit comments, now cut the crap. You’re defending a religious dictator on Lemmy. Not the right platform for this battle mate. Try Twitter instead, they love extremism and dictators.
Listen you are insulting me He is not a dictator He might be a little religious But for example i did talk with him He doesnt have any problem with mens love which is against ALL of religions And well thats why i say he isnt religious And the second thing is he is not a dictator He is only fighting against zionists The whole reason of the existence of this iran’s gov is to stop and destroy israrl and usa gov thats All
Why do you keep on digging your own grave? Defending a dictator, not a hill I’d die on.
Look, if the Iranian government only wants to destroy the strongest military force in the world and it’s closest allies, why are women oppressed? Why support Russia with weapons for invading Ukraine? Why oppressing the population, creating a growing gap between the rich elite and the poor majority? Classic dictator move. Was he voted into parlement with honest elections? Since you’re on the internet and defend the Ayatollah I can make an educated guess which class you’re in.
Iran may want to take on the biggest bully of our century, but it will be at the cost of all it’s inhabitants first and foremost, and loads of innocent others. Start by giving everyone equal rights and freedom of religion. And stop fueling Russia in their war crimes.
title says supreme ruler. but he doesn’t have any power? what are you on about? this is one of the worst sock puppets I have ever witnessed.
Turns out it’s just a troll post. They’re following me around Lemmy and harassing me now: https://lemmy.world/comment/14961538
So you were a capitalist huh ? It was obvious you are jewish And the way you talk it all makes sense Yeah i knew it And its not a troll post i wanted to know more about you thats all and i made a mistake you are not a good guy
“Cover of a book” doesnt matter and im also not a sock puppet stop insulting me
You insult this entire thread with your lies failing to defend a theocracy. I do not give a damn if I have insulted you, that was my intention. Either you believe the lies so much that you can no longer tell what is actually true, or you are a propagandist. Either way any respect you wished to gain from this post has been thoroughly trashed at this point.
You keep insulting and i dont want to talk with you Go away rude person !
Because he’s an asshole theocrat who maintains an oppressive state which subjugates women. Why shouldn’t he be despised? Just because he hates other horrible things doesn’t make him not horrible.
You have to come to iran And then all of his acts will make sense And he didnt subjugate any women He only made them wear hijab Which is recently getting stopped And the hijab rule is getting removed So i think currently iran’s gov is the best in the world Also the porn intake in iran is incredibly high And boys and girls always make sexual jokes with eachother in highschools So it just makes sense
And he didnt subjugate any women He only made them wear hijab
That’s the literal definition of subjugation…
Sujugation is making porn on women Forcing homeless women to become pornstars And not punishing men who do sexual jokes with women In iran women are respected no one can even touch them if you make a simple sexual joke with them you will end up in jail Its not like usa which men go around and slap backs of women and nothing will happen to those assholes
You’re fuckin’ crazy.
I do not have to come to Iran because a government based on religion never makes sense. And defending it is sick.
Its not religious at all my friend Thats just a cover to stop people from doing wrong things Forexample i do wear girlish clothes in iran and no one from gov really harasses me But people really do They look at me like they want to touch me And they joke with me about ugly stuff And they even touch me sometimes So from my experience this iran gov is totally ok
He’s literally a religious leader and makes religious proclamations. Why are you lying about that?
Im not lying my friend Its against religion to wear girlish clothes When you are a man But i did it again and again But they never harass me at all
As long as the clothes are not inappropriate and not manipulating and not revealing they wont harass anyone
My friend he DOESNT subjugate women He only makes them wear hijab And it makes sense because i live in iran And in iran men are sexually wild They raped me three times in this country And they wont even leave cats alone You just have to come to iran and see how men look at you Its like they want to rape you So it makes sense to protect women
If you were raped three times, and I am very sorry that happened to you, it sounds like these draconian measures your leader is taking are completely ineffective. So I’m not sure why you’re defending him.
But he is doing his best and that makes me happy
If his best was unable to prevent you from getting raped three times, it sounds like you need someone who’s best doesn’t allow that to happen. Because that does not happen in most countries.
But you just have to see it for yourself For example instagram is really popular in iran And you can just go there and see Everyone is insulting palestinian people Defending israel and insulting this old man Everyone in our country opposes him And i can say for sure that most of them are supporters of zionist regime Just take a look in instagram you will understand what i am talking about
So… locking up the rapists wasn’t an option? A statewide educational campaign against rape was impossible?
Are Iranian men just born different from other men, or is there something in the culture that could be addressed?
Its because of community of iran’s men which are obssessed with usa gov and israel Zionists have got their greatest allies in here (in iran) And well they arent born differently Its because of the soft war which usa started against iran long time ago
Zionists always talk bad about people who oppose them So instead of getting stray Lets be organized and support eachother
That’s a lot of hand waving just to say “Iranian men are rapists because America”. It wasn’t Zionists calling them habitual rapists, it was you. Zionism is bad, but take some personal responsibility brother.
Why do women take responsibility for the actions of men?
Its not actions of men They are just protecting themselves from sexually addicted men
Then it’s clearly the men being so problematic and being so addicted that they have to rape women
But my friend its impossible to stop mens sickness So since women and men should help eachother That is indeed the best way to do it
He’s not wrong.
On this one specific narrow topic, he is not wrong.
