Cross-posted from “If you could improve PeerTube, what would you improve?” by @[email protected] in [email protected]
What keeps you away from PeerTube? What features does PeerTube lack? If you were the developer of PeerTube, how would you improve it?
Search.
If I go to youtube, and I search for content, it’s either there, or it’s not.
If I go to peertube, I need to then exit the site, search on AN UNRELATED 3RD PARTY SITE, and then I can get results from more than the local instance.
If I go to an instance that’s nothing but stamp collecting, the trending videos are going to be about stamp collecting. That doesn’t mean all of peertube is talking about stamp collecting. I’m just on the wrong instance, and the site itself is fractured and borderline useless.
Now you can include a feature to tell peertube that you DO want to see trending, local only, as a stamp collector, on a stamp collecting instance, that would be really useful! But also, if I don’t give a fuck about stamps, as mkst people don’t, the default should be peertube wide trending across ALL instances. I mean, if I don’t care about stamps I’m on the wrong instance to begin with, but that’s besides the point.
I feel like peertube should be each instance is a different type of content. Want to watch guys go fishing? There’s an instance just for that. With multiple different channels, each from different people, each covering different fishing topics. But your whole life isn’t just one topic. So you go to a different instance, one for automobiles, and you follow the channels that post videos about your car. Then you go to a cooking instance, and find a channel that’s just a guy showing you how to bake pies and cakes while running from the police.
Your searches, will 99% of the time not find the most relevant results if we seperate the content based on instance. So the search as is, is really limited and fragmented to have to go to another site, search, find the video, come back to peertube, log in, go to the video directly, and THEN subscribe to the content.
See how jarring that is, compared to youtube? Search, click, play/subscribe. All in 10 seconds.
https://sepiasearch.org/ is already integrated into the app.
That’s cool and all, but I don’t use an app, nor should I be expected to download software just to use a website. I use my browser.
I tried it, but gave up months ago. Decentralization is what we’re all about, but without a centralized index of what’s available, finding videos on PeerTube is more work than watching them is worth.
There is an index maintained by Framasoft (devs of PeerTube), but it is something the servers need to enable. A lot don’t.
Correction (De)Centralized index
The biggest thing is content and discoverability.
Any good channel recommendations?
I think there are about 5 decent ones:
- The Linux Experiment (tilvids)
- Gardiner Bryant (subscribeto.me)
- techlore (tilvids)
- Veronica explains
- fedihost
- blender
- transport evolved (peertube.tv)
@[email protected] TechLore now seems to be at https://neat.tube/c/techlore/videos
Nice thanks. I think I subscribe to 3 of them. Now we have some more!
It would be nice if there was an easy and straightforward way for instances to create their own shared indexes. There’s a feature for this in PeerTube, which I guess is supposed to act like instance following + a shared search catalogue. It would be handy to know how to easily make sort of the federation equivalent of a webring.
The devs are also working on a mobile app, which I think is something the platform is sorely missing.
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Maybe Librepay integration of some sort could help. Maybe that platform should be a little more ambitious and offer server operators and it’s users in the fediverse better pricing.
Some kind of Monetary-support system
Maybe Liberapay built-in? I’m sure a plugin could fix that.
I wish there was a libre one-time payment software
I would very much appreciate the ability to explore other instances and see what channels are hosted there from my own instance, instead of having to open the new instance in a new tab, then copy and paste the link to each interesting channel into my instance to be able to subscribe to it.
I wish there was a similar feature for Lemmy as well.
What keeps you away from PeerTube?
The app not being on F-Droid. Once it’s there, I’ll at least try it out. Bonus if there’s an Android TV app too. I’ll watch stuff on PeerTube if I’m given a direct link, and I tried playing around with NewPipe but the experience feels bolted on to the rest of the app.
Well that’s new. Thanks!
Make sure you enable “tethered network services” (due to the Sepia search integration) as otherwise it is hidden in the F-droid app. Early days, you can’t even log into an account yet, but looks promising.
I found one, but search didn’t work
More content. We need 100% of the Creative Commons videos on YouTube to be mirrored, to start
We had vidcommons.org once, that hosted a lot of CC content. Unfortunately the owner couldn’t afford to keep it running.
If you now a source of CC videos, let me know.
Getting Lemmy(and other fedi services) to fully support linking videos would help. Piefed and and other platforms support it pretty well.
for example: https://piefed.social/post/398574
direct link vs just the url. Lemmy will not work with the direct link like this nor the comments appearing in both instances.
It used to work fine in Lemmy, but somewhere along the line it seems to have broken.
Yeah it’s been a little less than a year since it stopped working. I saw the GH issues, looks like the Lemmy devs took the position the Peertube devs need to fix…something with activityhub. I hope they fix things. Lemmy development vs the actual instances seem a bit more fragmented than the rest of the fediverse.
I tried to take a look with my local Lemmy instance but it looks like the issue resides in how different Lemmy uses activityhub than other software. I don’t claim to know why they made the change but they seem to be the odd one out.
Misskey has a pretty great support for peertube.
What’s peer tube?
Better federation. The vidiverse search is just bad, i want to watch all types of content from my account.
And more general instances; i’m on spectra.video now, but as i said the vidiverse search sucks and it’s not federated to enough instances :/
It’s surprising that there doesn’t seem to be an obvious way in the UI to just see a list of creators/channels on a local instance. So, that’s the first thing I’d change to improve discoverability.
The way I currently find relevant content is by going to Sepia Search, putting in exact words that I think are likely to be in the title of at least one video on a channel that would likely also have a lot of other relevant content, and then going through that channel’s playlists. Those searches often lead me to single user instances with only one or two channels (e.g. a channel that has a backup of that user’s YouTube content and a channel with a backup of their Twitch or OwnCast or whatever streams). When it leads me to a generalist instance or one with a relevant subject/theme though, I’ve had little luck finding content from anyone else unless they’ve posted recently (compared to other users). Often the content that is most relevant to me is not what is newest but the archives from years ago. (New content is relevant though once I want to follow someone in particular, but it’s not what I want to see first.)
Another issue I’ve encountered is with the behavior of downloaded videos. I greatly appreciate that PeerTube provides a URL for direct download, and I prefer to watch videos in my own player downloaded in advance (so I can watch offline; pause and resume trivially after putting my computer to sleep; etc). H264 MP4 works fine for this, but the download seems to be some sort of chunked variant of it (for HLS?) which requires the player to read in the entire file to figure out the length or seek accurately. Having to wait a minute or two to be able to seek each time I open a large video file off my HDD is an irritating papercut. I suspect there’s likely a way to fix it by including an index in the file (or in a sidecar file) but I don’t know how to do it – short of re-encoding the entire video again which I’d rather not do since it both takes a long time and can result in quality loss. This usually doesn’t affect newly added videos (where the download link includes the pattern
/download/web-videos
and a warning is shown that it’s still being transcoded) but does when that’s done (the URL includes/download/streaming-playlists/hls/videos
instead); so, this is something that happens as a result of PeerTube’s reprocessing.Downloads from the instances that I’ve found to be most relevant to me are also pretty unreliable (connection is slow and drops a lot), so I use wget with automatic retries (and it sometimes still needs manual retries…) rather than downloading through my browser which tends to fail and then often annoyingly start over completely if I request a retry… It would be really nice if I could check that I’ve downloaded the file correctly and completely with a sha256 hash or something.
Search on all these federated sites is terrible. We need several user-selectable algorithms that display feeds from all instances
Import/export subscriptions
A good app that feels native
A short video feature that let me browse like tiktok tbh. I know people think short videos are bad but blender tutorials, recipe videos, leftist information are great on tiktok because theyre forced to get straight to the point without fluff like youtube videos that purposely extend the video so you watch more ads.