Summary

Bill Gates criticized Elon Musk for his support of far-right politicians, including the UK’s Tommy Robinson and Germany’s AfD party, calling it “insane shit” and accusing Musk of destabilizing political systems.

Gates questioned Musk’s focus on divisive politics while managing global businesses like Tesla and SpaceX.

Gates also expressed concern about wealthy individuals influencing foreign elections.

Musk has faced backlash for controversial actions, including a Nazi salute.

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    4 days ago

    Definitely worth listening to the Behind The Bastards podcast episode on Gates.

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    4 days ago

    Yeah, no Billie. You’ve caused enough shit with Microsoft, making yourself a billionaire. you don’t get to play the good guy now all of the sudden.

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    It’s not insane at all. It sucks but it’s completely logical. Musk is just protecting his capital as best he can within a global capitalist system.

    It’s like corporate “greedflation” during Covid. Of course they jacked up prices and lied about wholesale costs, thereby wildly inflating profits, because profit motives are what drive our world.

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      It’s not insane at all. It sucks but it’s completely logical. Musk is just protecting his capital as best he can within a global capitalist system.

      No, it’s absolutely insane, and short sighted. You know how much his capital will be in the event of WWIII? We won’t be spending money on overpriced EVs or sending rockets to outer space on scientific missions to study the universe. Assuming he doesn’t get himself assassinated first by people that actually care about democracy. The absolute BEST thing to protect his capital is a strong spending class in the US, which would require the economy to not collapse. You gut social services, there is exactly one logical outcome and it is social unrest followed by either class war or civil war.

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      Gates is a “lesser evil” billionaire but he advocated not to revoke the patents on Covid-19 vaccines during the height of the pandemic. I understand the need for innovation, but screw him for still being greedy in the face of immediate crisis. He is two-faced nonetheless.

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          He still has given away a lot of his wealth to charities, to be fair. He was the richest man after all until Elon came. But Gates is still a billionaire (only because of his underhanded business practices) in spite of donations so he’s still evil but to a lesser extent.

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            A lot? He’s currently worth $107 billion. That’s the most he’s ever been worth.

            You would think that someone giving away “a lot” of their wealth would be worth less than before. If you’re giving away so little that your wealth is actually growing, I’d say you’re not actually giving away a lot.

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      yeah he’s so good… at fucking up the education system. seriously fuck this guy and his wife for what they did in the name of so-called education reform, he’s just like the rest of them thinking just because he made a lot of money gaming the system he suddenly knows so much about everything. and fuck the united states for allowing these maniacs completely shape the country however they want.

      I thought it was foolish that they allowed gates to do education reform, but then I thought it was insane they allowed reelon the troglodyte to make tunnels for his fucking explody cars. but that wasn’t enough apparently so now they give him the keys to the entire kingdom.

      un-fucking-believable.

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    5 days ago

    Every single billionaire is a policy failure. By hoarding that much wealth, they are literally bad people. But that doesn’t mean they can’t do good things, or even give away what they don’t need, like the ex-billionaire Charles Feeney who redeemed himself and donated most of his billions, anonymously.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-54300268

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    Reminds me of comments made when Colin Powell resigned (ie “…bunch of fucking Crazies!”) [referring to the republican administration atvthe time].

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      This is exactly what he wants, for you to see him as a good guy billionaire. There’s no such thing. He is one of them not one of us, this is just PR and lip service

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        If this is a tactical move purely for selfish reasons, its not a good one considering the power Musk now wields. I think this is genuine from Gates. Saying it out loud maybe is a degree of performance, but I think he likely legitimately finds Musk’s fascist support a morally bad thing.

        Assuming all billionaires are constantly playing some kind of 4D chess game is just as bad being overly charitable when a billionaire says or does something that could be seen as good. Remember, Elon Musk has put himself in the spotlight constantly despite it often times hurting him financially, his desire to be liked/beloved as a genius is also genuine its just fueling frequently terrible decisions.

        That said, Gates is still an egotist and obviously pretty conventionally selfish (at what I’d describe as a pretty human level, if an average joe/jane came to have billions of dollars they’d probably treat the money in similar ways as Gates). Gates doesn’t deserve his wealth and Gates is no genius either, I just don’t think hes a fascist or a sociopath like Musk is.

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        I don’t think you’re wrong in general, and I could give you a list of criticisms of Gate’s actions even today. But if we’re going to have wealth disparity, and we probably always will, I’d rather it be pragmatic self-interest clothed in good will than rabid self-interest clothed in freedom.

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    He is probably just envious he didn’t get to do it himself. Or that it doesn’t fit his made-up persona.

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    The insane shit is probably Musk’s obsession with trying to impress gamers with his (pretend) gaming skills. Having characters in Diablo 4 or PoE2 being clearly played by other people, while acting like this is his work alone.

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      I for one wouldn’t rule out that, when Musk talks about working 12-hour days, what he really does is to let others work, while he sits on his ass tweeting and playing video games like the pathetic fraud that he is.

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        When you see him playing in video’s he’s playing.

        He just uses other people to help level him up. I wouldn’t really say that using someone to grind for you means you can’t play. Him not being able to play would be him getting destroyed in the videos where he shows himself playing.

        He just cheats to get his characters to a high level.

        Edit: Another way to think of it… lets say he did this with Dota 2, and he gets up to the 2nd highest tier through his own play, and with cheating by others grinding his ranks. Then, he plays matches at that tier and consistently wins (and self performs) as much as you’d expect anyone at that tier. Can he play Dota 2? I’d say yes. Did he cheat? Yes.

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        From the sounds of it he just sucks at all games. The one game we know he plays himself is a little puzzle game that’s on the level of tic tac toe. It’s just a dopamine generator.

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      If he’s so desperate to impress about something as inconsequential as gaming, what kind of lies is he saying about everything else …

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        Like if anyone ever screamed “overcompensating for a small dick”…

        Like we probably don’t have the scientific equipment to actually locate Musk’s cock if it’s size is relative to how much he’s overcompensating.