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      ''No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than three times, nor be elected to any additional term after being elected to two consecutive terms," the amendment states. Former Presidents Bill Clinton, George W. Bush and Barack Obama all served two consecutive terms, and thus would be barred from being elected to a third term. But not Trump, who is the first president since Grover Cleveland in 1892 to be elected to a second, non-consecutive term.

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    'No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than three times, nor be elected to any additional term after being elected to two consecutive terms," the amendment states. Former Presidents Bill Clinton, George W. Bush and Barack Obama all served two consecutive terms, and thus would be barred from being elected to a third term. But not Trump, who is the first president since Grover Cleveland in 1892 to be elected to a second, non-consecutive term.

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    A constitutional amendment required 2/3s House and Senate AND 3/4 of states. And they don’t have that. This is more bullshit to distract.

    To amend the U.S. Constitution, a proposed amendment must be approved by a two-thirds majority in both the House of Representatives and the Senate, and then ratified by three-fourths of the state legislatures (38 out of 50 states). Alternatively, an amendment can be proposed by a constitutional convention called for by two-thirds of the state legislatures, but this method has never been used.

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      This is more bullshit to distract.

      This is saying it louder for the people in the back. Musk’s Nazi Salute isn’t getting the message across? Okay, how about this?

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    Good fucking luck with that hurdle.

    They need a two-thirds vote in both the House of Representatives and the Senate; or a conventio called by Congress at the request of two-thirds of the state legislatures. Then it has to be ratified by the legislatures of three-quarters of the states.

    Even if they managed a super majority on both sides of Congress for Trumplefuck, there’s no way they’re getting 38 States to agree to that.

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      It’s obviously completely performative, this is a very common move in US politics in general, I’ve noticed–introducing a bill they know is definitely not going to pass, but makes them look good to their base.

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      I don’t think the law is a restricting factor for the trump regime.

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      It’s sad that you guys still think the rule of the constitution is some massive roadblock that they’ve somehow missed. They literally made an Executive Order that just says “No” to the very first sentence of the 14th amendment, do you think none of them noticed? They get to have a vote about ludicrous things, and they get to gleefully destroy the lives of any Republican who dares vote against them. Maybe it gets struck down for the time being? Who cares, the courts are packed, they can realistically just start killing people pretty soon and it’ll start with the disloyals and the true believers as needed as it always does.

      You cannot logical trap nor get off on technicalities fascists. It does not matter to them, they will just do what they want anyways, all that matters is if they can crush anyone who tries to stop them.

      They are pushing the boundaries of the conversation and they are testing the waters, and every time they’re pushed back on they use the limp push back to consolidate more power because nobody has been willing to actually stop them.

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        There are only two tried and true methods I am aware of to stop fascists:

        1. Killing them
        2. Making them kill themselves

        I’m going to enjoy seeing this comment get removed. I’ll think about it as I’m put on the train to the death camp.

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        With all due respect, that is some real defeatist dog shit. Yes, Trump and cronies have no respect for the constitution or the rule of law. But if we collectively roll over at the first fascist executive order, that’s exactly what they want us to do… They are testing the waters. The supreme court is packed, but every circuit court in the country certainly isn’t. And that’s where these battles are already being fought. We need to collectively resist every encroachment, every power grab. Otherwise we’re nearly as culpable as Trump for the rise of fascism.

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      Trump is the candidate during next election

      Red States let him be an option even though they shouldn’t

      He wins enough red States to have a majority

      They name him president even though it’s against the Constitution

      The supreme Court is packed with his picks so they don’t do anything about it

      Tada! Civil war? Dissolution of the USA? Who knows!?!

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      Trump is ruling by executive order and no one is stopping him from doing any of it, constitutional or not.
      He’ll just issue an executive order to lower the threshold and at best that order gets challenged and goes to the SCOTUS, and we all know what will happen there.

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        The only effective short-term roadblocks are going to be legal challenges, like the ones WA’s governor and AG have been preparing for. You’re right that this only works until it gets overturned by SCOTUS, and it doubly hurts progressives because we now have to spend resources (time and money) fighting nonsense instead of fighting for causes we want…like some goddamn healthcare.

        Delay. Deny. Depose.

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    It’s cute how so many in the comments think the legal checks will prevent this. They don’t care about the law or the Constitution in the same way they don’t care about optics, hypocrisy, decorum, or process. People keep viewing this through the lense of American democracy. None of that matters to fascists.

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      Yeah, people don’t seem to truly understand this, and I fear it will take something extreme before they do… And it’s likely already too late now, let alone by then.

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      They care about the law the same way the nazi’s cared about the law until the night of the long knives. I suspect their mass deportation plan is really them gearing up for the night of the long knives 2.0.

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      After four years of them being in power, he’ll probably just be able to…not leave, regardless of any election. Who would stop him?

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        Presumably someone with better aim than the last shooter.

        I’d be very careful as a wannabe dictator in a land with this many guns. The next four years are going to be tense for everyone.

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      In the end, the country isn’t a democracy. It’s a complicated system with complicated interactions.

      It’s really not impossible that a democracy turns into fascism.

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        Thought about that regarding the current events in Germany. If people democratically vote for fascism, that’s still a democratic vote. Only the outcome might be less democratic (or not at all) but at least once people choose this path willingly, following democratic rules.

        At the end it’s perfectly legal to do this. The question is more if it’s good or bad. It maybe even stupid. But here we are.

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    In order for it to pass, they need 290 votes in the House. The Republicans currently have 220 votes, so they would need 70 Democrats to flip.

    Then it goes to the Senate where they need 67 votes. First, 60 to get past the inevitable filibuster, and with 53 votes, Republicans need 7 Democrats to flip to move it forward and 14 to pass it.

    Then, the fun part, they need 38 states to ratify it. Trump did win 31 states, so he would still need 7 Harris states to ratify an amendment.

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    “It is imperative that we provide President Trump with every resource necessary to correct the disastrous course set by the Biden administration,” Ogles said in a statement

    so Biden created a bad situation for him in 4 years, yet he thinks Trump needs 8 years to undo it. Sounds like a skill issue to me.

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      Why are y’all still fighting about this? Your farce of an election is over, what purpose does this ceaseless bickering serve?

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      Fuck you, that wasn’t why Trump won. It was because Dems offer nothing but the avoidance of something worse.

      I’m outraged at the genocide and voted for Biden anyway. People can be mad at Dems and demand better without being responsible for their failure.

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        The American people failed.

        This was fucking advertised. This was chosen. This was voted for.

        Stupidest populous on earth.

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      No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than three times, nor be elected to any additional term after being elected to two consecutive terms…

      Obama served 2 consecutive terms so would be ineligible. They literally wrote this so that only Trump would be eligible.

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      Oh, fuck no. Obama’s leadership is what got us in this mess. He and the Clinton’s drove the Democratic party off a cliff.

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        Salty downvotes on this comment. Very funny

        Imagine trying to pretend the Clintons weren’t just Reaganites, or that Obama wasn’t a total fraud

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          Obama’s got that boyish grin and professorial demeanor. That and being the first black President are all most people seem to need.

          As President he capitulated to Wall Street on day one. His signature achievement was a healthcare plan that came from the same right wing think tank that brought us Project 2025. As party leader, he bankrupted the DNC allowing Hillary to helicopter in with cash and demand their loyalty in the 2016 primary. The moment he left the presidency he did a Wall Street tour collecting millions in “speaking fees”. Since then he has been working behind the scenes to undercut every effort to move the Democratic party in a progressive direction that could have countered Trump’s populism.

          It’s truly amazing that Democrats are still delusional about him.

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    Me as a Tennessean: “I bet it’s Andy Ogles”

    Checks

    Goddamn can I read that man like a fucking book. I’m sorry we’re all trying to vote the bastard out but the State gerrymandered the district because… AND I SHIT YOU NOT… “California does it, so it’s okay if we do it too”. Honest to God what our State Assembly said about breaking Nashville up into a hellscape of gerrymandering.

    Do know, he’s an idiot IRL as well. He’s the kind that’s really full of himself and he’s got a super high self-worth in head.

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      I’m in Cali. I don’t think we’re even Gerrymandered that badly, tbh. Someone can correct me if they want, but last time I looked at our congress map, it seemed pretty sane to me. Maybe it’s changed?

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    Do they really expect their orange beanbag leader to still be alive in four years? And if he still is, to still be able to know his own name or speak coherently in public?

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      Actuarial tables for an obese guy of his age reckon 50/50 chance of making it to the end of his term. Of course he has access to better healthcare than most.

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        Better health care but I gotta imagine day to day odds aren’t so hot for a dude who’s on a diet of McDonalds and Diet Coke. Kind of surprised he’s made it to 78.

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          Seems there are some people who can subsist completely on hate and cruelty as if it powers them, and they outlive us all. Just more evidence that this is all just a cosmic joke.

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        I can see him possibly making it that far … but I really don’t think he’ll be making much more sense the older he gets. He could live another 20 years, it doesn’t mean he’ll have all his marbles.

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          Have you heard that dipshit talk? Making sense isn’t what his followers want from him; his word-salad just needs to come sprinkled with the occasional slur.

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            It won’t be a test of how much he can continue to make sense

            It will be a test to see how far his supporters will be willing to ignore how stupid he will become

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            Technically, no need for him to even add a slur, his face is a slur.

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        They’ll prop his bloated corpse onto a metal pole to put behind glass as they continue to run things while their dear leader ‘rests and recuperates.’

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      He only needs to stagger over the four-year line before dropping dead, and Republicans get to stay in charge for four more years.

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        They know it has no chance to pass. It’s with straight up boot licking, or they think they have a plan to bypass the amendment process.