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    Good fucking luck with that hurdle.

    They need a two-thirds vote in both the House of Representatives and the Senate; or a conventio called by Congress at the request of two-thirds of the state legislatures. Then it has to be ratified by the legislatures of three-quarters of the states.

    Even if they managed a super majority on both sides of Congress for Trumplefuck, there’s no way they’re getting 38 States to agree to that.

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      I don’t think the law is a restricting factor for the trump regime.

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      It’s sad that you guys still think the rule of the constitution is some massive roadblock that they’ve somehow missed. They literally made an Executive Order that just says “No” to the very first sentence of the 14th amendment, do you think none of them noticed? They get to have a vote about ludicrous things, and they get to gleefully destroy the lives of any Republican who dares vote against them. Maybe it gets struck down for the time being? Who cares, the courts are packed, they can realistically just start killing people pretty soon and it’ll start with the disloyals and the true believers as needed as it always does.

      You cannot logical trap nor get off on technicalities fascists. It does not matter to them, they will just do what they want anyways, all that matters is if they can crush anyone who tries to stop them.

      They are pushing the boundaries of the conversation and they are testing the waters, and every time they’re pushed back on they use the limp push back to consolidate more power because nobody has been willing to actually stop them.

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        With all due respect, that is some real defeatist dog shit. Yes, Trump and cronies have no respect for the constitution or the rule of law. But if we collectively roll over at the first fascist executive order, that’s exactly what they want us to do… They are testing the waters. The supreme court is packed, but every circuit court in the country certainly isn’t. And that’s where these battles are already being fought. We need to collectively resist every encroachment, every power grab. Otherwise we’re nearly as culpable as Trump for the rise of fascism.

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      Trump is the candidate during next election

      Red States let him be an option even though they shouldn’t

      He wins enough red States to have a majority

      They name him president even though it’s against the Constitution

      The supreme Court is packed with his picks so they don’t do anything about it

      Tada! Civil war? Dissolution of the USA? Who knows!?!

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      Trump is ruling by executive order and no one is stopping him from doing any of it, constitutional or not.
      He’ll just issue an executive order to lower the threshold and at best that order gets challenged and goes to the SCOTUS, and we all know what will happen there.

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    It’s cute how so many in the comments think the legal checks will prevent this. They don’t care about the law or the Constitution in the same way they don’t care about optics, hypocrisy, decorum, or process. People keep viewing this through the lense of American democracy. None of that matters to fascists.

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      Yeah, people don’t seem to truly understand this, and I fear it will take something extreme before they do… And it’s likely already too late now, let alone by then.

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      They care about the law the same way the nazi’s cared about the law until the night of the long knives. I suspect their mass deportation plan is really them gearing up for the night of the long knives 2.0.

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      After four years of them being in power, he’ll probably just be able to…not leave, regardless of any election. Who would stop him?

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        Presumably someone with better aim than the last shooter.

        I’d be very careful as a wannabe dictator in a land with this many guns. The next four years are going to be tense for everyone.

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      No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than three times, nor be elected to any additional term after being elected to two consecutive terms…

      Obama served 2 consecutive terms so would be ineligible. They literally wrote this so that only Trump would be eligible.

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      Oh, fuck no. Obama’s leadership is what got us in this mess. He and the Clinton’s drove the Democratic party off a cliff.

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        Salty downvotes on this comment. Very funny

        Imagine trying to pretend the Clintons weren’t just Reaganites, or that Obama wasn’t a total fraud

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          Obama’s got that boyish grin and professorial demeanor. That and being the first black President are all most people seem to need.

          As President he capitulated to Wall Street on day one. His signature achievement was a healthcare plan that came from the same right wing think tank that brought us Project 2025. As party leader, he bankrupted the DNC allowing Hillary to helicopter in with cash and demand their loyalty in the 2016 primary. The moment he left the presidency he did a Wall Street tour collecting millions in “speaking fees”. Since then he has been working behind the scenes to undercut every effort to move the Democratic party in a progressive direction that could have countered Trump’s populism.

          It’s truly amazing that Democrats are still delusional about him.

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    In order for it to pass, they need 290 votes in the House. The Republicans currently have 220 votes, so they would need 70 Democrats to flip.

    Then it goes to the Senate where they need 67 votes. First, 60 to get past the inevitable filibuster, and with 53 votes, Republicans need 7 Democrats to flip to move it forward and 14 to pass it.

    Then, the fun part, they need 38 states to ratify it. Trump did win 31 states, so he would still need 7 Harris states to ratify an amendment.

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    Me as a Tennessean: “I bet it’s Andy Ogles”

    Checks

    Goddamn can I read that man like a fucking book. I’m sorry we’re all trying to vote the bastard out but the State gerrymandered the district because… AND I SHIT YOU NOT… “California does it, so it’s okay if we do it too”. Honest to God what our State Assembly said about breaking Nashville up into a hellscape of gerrymandering.

    Do know, he’s an idiot IRL as well. He’s the kind that’s really full of himself and he’s got a super high self-worth in head.

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    Do they really expect their orange beanbag leader to still be alive in four years? And if he still is, to still be able to know his own name or speak coherently in public?

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      Actuarial tables for an obese guy of his age reckon 50/50 chance of making it to the end of his term. Of course he has access to better healthcare than most.

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        Better health care but I gotta imagine day to day odds aren’t so hot for a dude who’s on a diet of McDonalds and Diet Coke. Kind of surprised he’s made it to 78.

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          Seems there are some people who can subsist completely on hate and cruelty as if it powers them, and they outlive us all. Just more evidence that this is all just a cosmic joke.

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        I can see him possibly making it that far … but I really don’t think he’ll be making much more sense the older he gets. He could live another 20 years, it doesn’t mean he’ll have all his marbles.

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          Have you heard that dipshit talk? Making sense isn’t what his followers want from him; his word-salad just needs to come sprinkled with the occasional slur.

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            Technically, no need for him to even add a slur, his face is a slur.

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            It won’t be a test of how much he can continue to make sense

            It will be a test to see how far his supporters will be willing to ignore how stupid he will become

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        They’ll prop his bloated corpse onto a metal pole to put behind glass as they continue to run things while their dear leader ‘rests and recuperates.’

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      He only needs to stagger over the four-year line before dropping dead, and Republicans get to stay in charge for four more years.

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        They know it has no chance to pass. It’s with straight up boot licking, or they think they have a plan to bypass the amendment process.

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    “It is imperative that we provide President Trump with every resource necessary to correct the disastrous course set by the Biden administration,” Ogles said in a statement

    so Biden created a bad situation for him in 4 years, yet he thinks Trump needs 8 years to undo it. Sounds like a skill issue to me.

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    FTA" “Trump “has proven himself to be the only figure in modern history capable of reversing our nation’s decay and restoring America to greatness, and he must be given the time necessary to accomplish that goal,”” - He hasn’t don’t anything yet!! How has he ‘proven himself’

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    Surely we would all actually show up to try to fight this, right? If it passed.

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      Absolutely. People talk about another civil war. If you start hear ing about spontaneous violence in the streets, that’s when you need to worry. I think if this actually passed, we’d start hearing about stuff like that.

      Realistically, Republicans know this has no chance of passing. Frankly, I think this is just mean-spirited trolling–which is a good indicator of the state of our politics. We want to see the other side suffer.

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        They introduce it now, and even some conservatives laugh it off as “just a joke,” but within the next 4 years, it will be raised many more times, each time with them getting more serious. They put it out there like this so it’s less shocking the second, third, and fourth time you hear it. By the end, every conservative bootlicking moron will be lining up to say “presidents should be allowed to have an uninterrupted span of 8 years of rule so as to enact the agenda we ‘voted’ for!”

        It’s predictable. I’m going to buy some guns and start hitting the range.

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          It could be that, it’s more likely that this never passes/or is ratified and is effectively a Benghazi or hunter Biden trope that plays well on Fox News.

          My bigger fear is that Trump just runs for a 3rd term anyways because who’d stop him? The supreme Court will vote 6:3 that their hands are tied any they can’t keep him off the ballot. And if he’s elected, they’ll rule 6:3 that “well, the Constitution says we can’t do this, but it’d go against the will of the people and would be hard to unwind so we won’t do anything”

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        It’s the fascist version of all the pie-in-the-sky progressive stuff that gets introduced when they know they can’t get the votes. I wish more of them actually gave a shit about the American people as much as optics and pandering so they can keep sucking the megadonor teat.

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    Stop hand wringing in here. It’s fucking stupid, and a PR play. You need 38 states for a constitutional amendment, and that isn’t happening however you slice it.

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      Just shoot however many states are missing govenors in the head, as the SC has ruled the president can order anything illegal. Repeat until passed.

      The US has rotten so much on the inside over the past decades, that this decline of the nation is inevitable. Question is only, if people will let the fascists control the decline until the country lies in rubbles, or if people will fight to create a new nation.

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      It wouldn’t even get that far. You need either two thirds of both House and Senate or for two thirds of the states to call for a constitutional convention just to propose an amendment.

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      We have witnessed, already, the breakdown of democratic society and the rule of law in this country. You need to stop looking at everything through that paradigm because they are just gonna steamroll straight through that shit. They already have.