I have one outstanding order that is already out for delivery. Once I get that, I’m closing my amazon account. I’m done. Buy nothing. Vote with your wallet. Edit: account is closed. get bent Bozos.

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    Voting “third” party only fails because the great mass of fucking morons who insist on voting for the genocidal, global empire terrorist pieces of shit currently in charge. You can try as hard as you want to deflect that blame, but it will never wash off.

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      I like your sentiment, but a two party system inherently uses third party votes as spoilers. It is common for the dominate party to support a third party to peel away votes from their major opposition.

      https://youtu.be/s7tWHJfhiyo

      One solution to this is ranked voting. Of course many of our politicians recognize this and have already passed laws at the state level to bar ranked voting under the pretense that it is too confusing for voters.

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        There is no legal enshrinement of a “two party system”. Whoever the public votes for wins. The public’s self-defeating mentality is the problem.

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          Not explicitly. Just effectively. Between first past the post, which naturally evolves into a two party system. And the electoral college which enshrines it. At the national level actual, independent 3rd parties are an impossibility. And they know it.

          Theoretically matter could spontaneously coalesce into a Boltzmann brain before a 3rd party could win a national election.

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      What’s the point of voting for a 3rd party when they have no members in Congress or the courts? They’d have to coalition with Republicans or Democrats anyways.

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        Exactly, it’s not like the president has all power (at least not yet, we’ll see where it is in a couple years). Without supporting members of the other branches, a third party president is nearly useless. That said, I’d take a useless but well meaning president over Trump.

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          ^ This speaks to a lack of civics education. Without an overwhelming majority, Congress can’t pass harmful legislation with an executive veto, and the executive can still halt its implementation.

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        Gridlock is better than streamlined totalitarianism. Vote for them in both. And courts weren’t really partisan before ~2010.

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      With a “First Past The Post, Winner Takes All”-system like you have in the US, there’s virtually no chance of a third party winning an election, as the majority of the country haven’t even heard of your candidate, and thus won’t vote for it.

      And then still, once you get your third party elected president, then what? They’ll have to make huge compromises on their campaign promises in order to get anything done in Congress.

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        The public choosing to vote for a different party wins in a FPTP system regardless. The obstacle is the public.