• adrianhooves@lemmy.today
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    2 days ago

    hopefully this tariff trouble will end pretty soon, and with that, things will get cheaper for both canada and mexico

  • deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz
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    2 days ago

    The thing is, it’s almost certain that the orange idiot will do this again next month, next quarter, next year, ad infinitum. He’s also shown that it’s mostly bluster, Canada called his bluff and he blinked. So now it’s noise, risk, and unnecessary cost.

    There’s also no confidence that this nonsense will stop in four years, no confidence that another Trump won’t be elected next time.

    America’s burned the last shred of respect it had left, and it’s gone, for decades if not forever.

    Every other country is going to do its best to divest itself of every dependency on the USA it can; find other buyers and find other sellers.

  • Cruxifux@feddit.nl
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    3 days ago

    Yeah I’m still never knowingly buying another US product ever again. Fuck them.

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      2 days ago

      This is a key point. A lot of Canadians are going to avoid buying American, at which point it doesn’t matter if they’re product is on the shelves or if the price didn’t go up, so there will still be some economic impact even if our leaders kiss and make up.

      Trump didn’t piss off one person, he pissed off millions, then gave them a target. And this isn’t a unique event. Similar responses are happening in the EU and elsewhere.

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        2 days ago

        Im skeptical that anything positive will come of this for either of our countries anyway. Things will just continue to get progressively worse for the working class.

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          2 days ago

          Tariffs can have certain benefits if wielded with finesse in the right circumstances. Trump uses anything he has like a blunt object. The goal of the retaliatory tariffs was to cause key parts of America pain, rather than mostly Canada feeling the pain of these tariffs.

          As for helping the working class. No tariffs are better than tariffs for that working class, but that group has been neglected or targeted for a long time.

  • rxbudian@lemmy.ca
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    3 days ago

    Canada should keep imposing the Tariffs until March.
    Trump didn’t expect Canada to hit back, so he is unprepared for the fallout. If Canada also pauses until March, Trump will use the time to prepare and he’ll reimpose the Tariffs in march

    • laranis@lemmy.zip
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      2 days ago

      This is the part the media and the economists get wrong. This was never about trade or the economy. Trump understands neither. What he does understand is power. Control. It is how he has always “negotiated”. Find some pressure points you control, press on it (even if it makes no sense or, worse, actually causes suffering) and then wait for someone to offer something and declare victory.

      No grand plan, no scheme, no 3d chess, no deep thought. Just flex and collect.

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      3 days ago

      My thoughts, exactly.

      This move was simple intelligence gathering. Now he knows how the world will respond to this threat. He’s far more prepared to do it for real the next time.

      Canada should hold their ground and call his bluff. Make him suffer for just the idea of threatening us.

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      3 days ago

      That would also give Trump time to find alternative markets to prepare to reimpose the tariffs

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        3 days ago

        He pissed off the two biggest trade partners, already fucked over farmers with China with the last round of tariffs that never recovered, and most of the EU. Him and his idiot brain trust isn’t exactly swimming in markets.

        Also he doesn’t want to source anything from anywhere, he’s stuck in some dementia addled past that never existed where America produced everything and thinks he can do this overnight.

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    3 days ago

    I get it now, 10000 Mexican troops on the US border with Mexico, 1000 times more fentanyl seized along the Southern border, so that means ten Canadians deployed along the Northern border. Easy!

  • nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca
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    3 days ago

    All that noise lol.

    First tariffs on “day 1” , then Feb 1, then Feb 4, now Mar 1. I wonder how much more credibility he even has left on this.

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      2 days ago

      He… Never had any credibility? Everybody knows Trump doesn’t understand anything, and all his decisions are fed to him by handlers/oligarchs/lobbyists.

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      3 days ago

      Trump is on both knees taking it up the ass, while sucking the cocks of billionaires as they rob us blind of our government information and money.

      Sorry for that ugly visual.

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      3 days ago

      Not sure this was a Canadian win? We had to commit a billion to border security and USA had to commit to status quo for 30 days.

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    3 days ago

    Keep boycotting US goods, people. Even if no tariff comes to pass, we need to swing away from our dependence on US trade.

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      2 days ago

      Actually… As an American, I can also prioritize Canadian goods, I’m guessing. Maybe we can do both, from both sides of things?

      This said, if the ploy here is to milk those goods for money via terrifs and then point to them as a huge success, it may only harm the situation…

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      2 days ago

      I managed to do a pretty good grocery shop today and I managed to only buy 1 American onion. There was a local option but I couldn’t justify buying (or carrying) 25lbs without a plan. It’s a local grocery store though, and I’m confident they’re working on making buying Canadian/boycotting American products much easier very soon.

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      3 days ago

      I hope the various provinces continue to not shelve US alcohol. Trump said he was pausing the tariffs. When he says he’s canceling them, then ease off.

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        2 days ago

        What exactly is the point of this? By buying foreign products, you pay the US government in whatever import tariff as part of the cost. I’d rather support domestic American businesses over the US government.

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          2 days ago

          What’s the point of… what? Boycotting American products? I didn’t say I was starting an immediate total cut-off of all of them. Our current stupid government just inspires the desire to this or something meaningful…

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        3 days ago

        I’ve been trying to de-billionaire my life lately. The strategy at the moment for spending money is:

        Buy nothing, if possible. Then buy used, if I have to spend money. If I can’t buy used, then buy local. If I can’t buy local, then buy Canadian or Mexican.