As a point of clarity. Trump demanded a ridiculous share of minerals from Ukraine. Zelensky wanted to negotiate that. Trump essentially told him there was no negotiation. They could give up half of their future mineral wealth or they could kick rocks.
Conservative be like: “NOOOO WE CANT ‘WASTE MONEY’ AND FUND A COUNTRY DEFENDING ITSELF FROM INVASION 😡😡😡”
Also conservatives: “Lets cut social security and give money to israel so they can commit a genocide 😏”
also crickets when it comes to israel.
They’re also going to gut IRS. So there will be less revenue.
Oh
You think there is less revenue?
🤣
Tariffs and sales tax doesn’t need IRS
i need something to bring my blood pressure down. i am flushed with anger. make your own mirror of this if you download yt-dlp run from command line
yt-dlp https://youtu.be/uqOOOR7Kr-s
“this is gonna be great television, i’ll tell you that” - Donald Trump, 025/28/2, he tried to bully Ukrainian president Zelenskyy on live tv
Look how you’ve mangled that date
look you gotta say the date biggest to smallest. that way it’s impervious to nationalist math confusion.
if i did it wrong then we’ll just rewrite the rules in my favor
I’m sure Germany, France, or the UK would love to get the mineral rights that Trump is after.
I really want this to blow up in Trump’s face. Rude strongarm tactics is a real bad look.
I sure as hell hope we don’t make our support contingent on securing mineral rights from Ukraine while they’re over a barrel.
Good job GOP. We lost the Cold War.
All these years after winning it. That’s some special war-fightin right there!
Few things age like as they’re happening!
Man, I want this war over and the US out of it.
But watching our POTUS and VP behave that way on international TV. Even if you support their politics, it’s hard for me to understand how all of us are not embarrassed.
I also like that Zelensky didn’t just swallow the insults and spoke his peace, because the media is (of course) focusing solely on the preferred Trump narrative.
I’m amazed Zelensky doesn’t stand up and slap the both of them across their faces holyyyyyyy
Fuck the MAGA US. Kick them out of NATO, and let’s arm Europe. Between France and the UK we are a nuclear power of our own.
The whole thing felt like an embodiment of this meme:
If you want to see the full video, including the parts before the discussion gets hot, here’s the full video.
Thanks.
Zelensky is the strongest man in the world to be able to hold himself back from attacking these ass holes.
I think he should call Trump’s bluff and send in a few dozen battle hardened Ukrainian troops with a few dozen drones and show Trump’s entire nursing home and support staff how things work nowadays. We need to put together an anonymous block chain fund with the purpose of putting multi million bounties on the treason party, funded anonymously by small donors and build a reliable mechanism for people to anonymously, but truthfully claim the bounties. What our political contributions fail to do, crowd funding can do. All of the technology exists to make this happen, and it’s one of the main appeals of crypto currencies. Large scale anonymous transactions. If I find out there’s a billionaire Trump donating traitor or heritage foundation member near me, and I can get a basic Intel file and there’s a 500K bounty on them, then shit. They better hug their money goodnight one last time. Just send an email from a burner/anon account to a recipient with the time of death rough location and wallet address before any news is released. If all the details add up then release the funds to the wallet.
Make it worth while and let rule#3 take effect:
“Number three, never trust nobody Your moms’ll set that ass up, properly gassed up Hoodied and masked up, shit, for that fast buck She be laying in the bushes to light that ass up”
I mean, it would have certainly resulted in him being shot on the spot. The Secret Service would shoot anyone .
I wonder how long until the US is nuked? Or at least actually attacked, militarily.
US didn’t spent most of it’s money on army for nothing. Doesn’t matter if the army is as powerful as it says it is, the image is strong enough, so nobody will dare.
The only way it will crumble down is if they do “putin gambit”, really attack someone, fail spectacularly at it, expose inability to do shit, and get 50 square kilometres of baren wasteland for it.Or a civil war.
Watched it, my takes: Trump is definitly the lets make an offer he can’t refuse type of negociator. I am thinking that the last week’s visits have been hard on their ego. I suspect there is an agreement between european leaders to not let them get away with lies and bullshit when in person, even in the oval office. And it seems to be working, Vance respect comment make them look real fricking weak.
The “respect” and “you should be thankful” comments reminded me of that old (I think Tumblr) post:
Sometimes people use “respect” to mean “treating someone like a person” and sometimes they use “respect” to mean “treating someone like an authority”.
and sometimes people who are used to being treated like an authority say “if you won’t respect me, I won’t respect you” and they mean “if you won’t treat me like an authority, I won’t treat you like a person.”
and they think they’re being fair, but they aren’t, and it’s not okay.
The respect comment took me back to his donut comments. The couchfucker is a charisma void.
I mean I understand that Zelensky is desperate and doing whatever is necessary to ensure the fair survival of his country.
But the UK getting in line to kiss his dihheriacious ass, only to get humiliated by this fucking high school bully? Have some spine you fucking cowards. But I guess they meet in the common factor of enabling genocide for Zionists so they never will.
Ah it’s time for Poland to raise a big stink about the next errant missile and invoke article 5 as the zerg rush red square
You do realize that article 5 does not mean that other countries have to join the war, right? They can choose to or they can choose not to. Even if they choose to get involved, it can be in form of economic support. And even if they choose to declare war, it can be in form of loud words. So I expect Poland would be on it’s own.
It means they have to under their treaty obligations. If they choose not to, they are in violation of the treaty and NATO is just over. If the Americans want to do this, they should forever be reminded that article 5 has been used only once before, by them, and the allies came to their aid no questions asked.
Edit: someone has already basically already commented what I had said and I missed it
They are under an obligation to decide what they want to do collectively. If they decide that it was an aggression, then they are under obligation to provide support. It can be exact same"support" that Europe is already providing to Ukraine. That’s too say not much of it
You’re thinking of article 4.
The Article 5 wording is vague. It states that an attack against one member “shall be considered an attack against them all.” What is quoted less often is that each member state only has an obligation to take “such action as it deems necessary, including the use of armed force.”
NATO is dead for all practical purposes. You think this trump asswipe is going to lift a finger if anything serious happens in Europe?
Why did people vote for the Orange one? How.can you be so stupid?
I’ve been trying to figure this out for the last 8 years. People here are so fucking stupid and selfish.
They’re not even selfish. They’re worse off too, just fucked themselves to spite everyone else.
They can be both.
