Elon Musk has the ear of one of the most powerful people in the world – President Donald Trump – making him one of the most powerful people in the world, too. He’s been given unfettered access to adjust the federal government’s budget and headcount.
So what’s he doing posting a slur multiple times targeting the disabled community on social media?
Isn’t he allowed to use this word just as black people have a pass using the N-word?
The dude is in desperate need of being flayed alive
the disabled are not retards just like the gays are not removeds
They should just send him some human feces topped with lettuce, onions, and tomatoes, in a hamburger bun, in a bag that says “Enjoy your ass burgers, Elon.”
He needs to stop, R-words or not.
Besides that, he’s a eugenicists, so he wants us “cease to exist” in one way or another.
Of course. Remember, he is projecting.
As an aside, why does the article avoid actually naming the r-word? Saying the word is not the same thing as using it. It’s not like the N word that way. Maybe it’s for SEO or something.
Saying the word is not the same thing as using it. It’s not like the N word that way.
Explain the logic for not quoting an offensive word?
Taboos are weird.
No, there are just a lot of people that literally think it’s as bad as the n word. A few comments up someone used the word to help people understand what word the article describes. They got a good 40% downvotes.
It’s exhausting. Internet Karen’s exist on both sides of the political isle.
I think this one is generational (for real, not “these kids don’t have work ethic”). I don’t know anyone in my age group that cares at all. I’ve only ever heard people a decade younger than me say “r-word” in real life.
It’s not generational. Bigotry went out of fashion, which is good, and then a completely different and unrelated thing happened at the same time which was terrible and stupid and bad, which is the phony bouts of public fainting whenever somebody uses The Wrong Words. People act, for some weird reason, like these two extremely different things have anything to do with each other.
A word like “retard” can be the ableist slur, or it can be exactly the same as “moron”. The strange notion that it can only ever be the shittiest version of itself is simply a mistake. It’s an error.
And now it’s an error that nobody is willing to publicly acknowledge because it’s developed the force of a public fear campaign. It’s time for the fear campaign to stop, and for people to understand that words that have multiple senses still have multiple senses even when one of them is really shitty. Don’t use the shitty version, use the non-shitty version freely, stop pretending that every use is the shitty version. We do it with “bitch” instinctively. That’s what the correct answer to this looks and feels like.
or it can be exactly the same as “moron”.
Because people keep using medical terms as insults necessitating the need for new medical terms with the connotation of insults…
So instead of just constantly making new medical terms so people can try a new insult, why not just fucking stop?
How is that difficult to understand?
It’s not “fear” it’s not “censorship” it’s not any of the things you’re whining about
It’s about stopping the process of turning medical terms into insults.
You have enough insults already, if you feel like you need more how about you make one up I stead of just using actual medical terms?
Why is thnkng so difficult for the people who insist on disparaging that population?
The funny thing about this whole conversation is I genuinely don’t know which population it’s supposed to be disparaging. (Also I’ll note I never saw the message you responded to, given it was mod removed on Lemmy it could be super toxic or it could be “I don’t like Linux that much”, but I assume the former)
Don’t get me wrong I know I could look it up, but it’s easier to just not care and go with the flow when I’m around folks in their 20s…and also not care and go with the flow when I’m around folks in their 50s.
They basically said because “moron” was once a scientific term (and people opposed it’s use as an insult back in the day too) it was fine to keep doing it indefinitely…
That just leads to an endless cycle where no one is happy, or they could just get creative with their insults.
Like, the whole “debate” is driven by people who aren’t smart enough to come up with original insults on their own, so they have to resort to offensive language to “shock” people with their lack of empathy.
There’s a certain kind of irony to that, but the people advocating for using recent medical terms as insults will never noticed it
He’s self-diagnosing. It’s a cry for help.
The motherfucker did Nazi salutes and didn’t care. Pretty sure he is not going to care about people complaining that he is saying slurs.
It’s his word, he is just taking it back to empower himself.
Asking the eugenics advocate nazi to use nicer words about disabled people is kind of pointless considering he’d probably kill them if he could.
This should be a condemnation letter, it rubs me the wrong way that this is titled as such a defanged “please stop.”
Useless headline. The R-word is apparently “retarded”.
I can’t wait for your treatise on pronouns, Sir Edgealot.
You’re in the wrong here. Reread the message and the tone of the message and then I’d like a 500 word essay on which particular diction in the post makes you think he’s an edgelord rather than someone who genuinely doesn’t know who would abbreviate something “r-word” as if it’s an equivalent moral choice to call a person by that word as it is to call a person by a word that evokes 400 years of triangle trade suffering (or for a subset of the us population, the analogous c-word which many view as evoking 10,000 years of misogynistic behaviors).
Once that essay is done, I’d like 1000 words on why you think this post makes him anti-trans or, if it’s easier, anti-“pronoun” whatever that happens to be a dog whistle for in your head. Feel free to use their comment history for this one if needs be.
The post was edited since that reply, not alot of people go back and check if that happened.
The edit to my comment merely added the second paragraph, which explicitly spells out what should have been obvious to anyone with basic reading comprehension skills, or failing those, at least a modicum of simple human kindness.
In retrospect, with the added context, I can see what you originally meant. But without it, your post very much was just another person using the word as though it was fine to say and weird that people wouldn’t say it. And with it being at -5 when I posted, I wasn’t the only one that read it that way. You even felt you needed to correct it after I left.
But without it, your post very much was just another person using the word as though it was fine to say and weird that people wouldn’t say it.
No, that’s something that came entirely from you. My comment merely pointed out a failure of the article to say what it was talking about.
It’s important to be careful when communicating with others about issues that feed strong emotions in us. It’s all too easy to project meaning that isn’t there, and mistakenly vilify someone based on our own biases.
And with it being at -5 when I posted, I wasn’t the only one that read it that way.
Yes, and at least some of that was surely due to the influence of your comment.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bandwagon_effect
You even felt you needed to correct it after I left.
That’s faulty reasoning. What I added was not a correction, but an explicit statement of what should have been obvious to a reader who wasn’t looking for a quarrel. In other words, I went the extra mile to do the reader’s job for them. My addendum doesn’t imply fault in the original.
I did this only because I’m familiar with the way misguided replies can lead to toxic snowballs on web forums, and I noticed that your comment had the potential to start one.
In retrospect, with the added context, I can see what you originally meant.
A simple “I’m sorry for mistakenly chiding you” would have sufficed here. Good day.
Using the actual word for reporting is not the same as using the word as an insult. Bowdlerizing news doesn’t do anything besides making them uncleared.
Yes, it is… stop.
I just Ctrl+f’d the article and can confirm it’s not defined. Why do you say it is?
They edited their post to be completely different from when I replied. I haven’t been back since. Everyone else that replied before the edit doesn’t make sense anymore either.
Kind of sucks that can happen, maybe we should be notified when something we replied to is edited.
They edited their post to be completely different from when I replied.
No, I did not. I added a second paragraph to address your obvious misinterpretation.
The first paragraph is what you replied to, and remains intact. You could have tried to understand it on its own, but instead you chose to look for an excuse to chide a stranger. That was unkind, unwarranted, and unnecessary.
The question asked by [email protected] stands.
His question wouldn’t make sense if you didn’t edit your post, though. As my post would have referred to your first sentence absent the second. And you’ll notice everyone read your post the way I did before you edited it. When I came along, you had -5. The only reason mine seems like a weird response now is because I responded to what was effectively a completely different post, even if the original post is still in there.
You were correct to edit your post. I don’t want to edit mine, but I will add context.
“You” knew what your original post was supposed to mean. But if every other viewer saw it as meaning what was written instead and you had to turn it around, are all of us readers really the ones in the wrong?
As my post would have referred to your first sentence absent the second.
There was never a point where my comment contained the first sentence absent the second.
And you’ll notice everyone read your post the way I did before you edited it. When I came along, you had -5.
Bandwagoning is very common on web forums. People are easily influenced by the first reply they see, and will often click a vote button before thinking about what was actually written.
The paragraph I added was to try to guide people away from that bad habit once the bandwagoning had already started. It does not imply fault in my original comment.
When I am the listener or reader, any time my first impression of a comment is negative, I consider it my responsibility to stop and consider other meanings before crying foul. That’s the only way we can avoid miscommunication, after all, since it’s not possible for a speaker or author to predict every potential misinterpretation, and the burden of avoiding it should not be entirely on them. I wish more people would do the same.
So, you advocate for a generous reading of peoples posts. But, despite knowing what your original post contained, took me at my direct word instead of what I clearly meant… weird, why would someone do that? You knew I meant paragraph, and yet assumed malicious intent. While saying people shouldn’t do that…
And in your case it should have been even clearer I wrote the wrong word to convey my intended meaning.
I wanna bet in a few months it’ll be racist slurs too.
Thats already allowed on Twitter. Though you will get in trouble for the word cis.
Billionaire with a megaphone, and this is the best he can do? Pathetic.
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Musk doesn’t take orders and he sure as hell doesn’t take requests. Knowing that it offends just makes him want to do it more. He loves the attention, it’s why he bought Twitter.
