• toomanypancakes@lemmy.world
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    13 days ago

    I blame Biden for his administration’s unwavering support of Israel’s ongoing genocide campaign. That 100% depressed voter turnout.

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      13 days ago

      I saw a couple heavily down voted articles that said that was the largest issue and around 30% of people who voted Biden 2020 but didn’t vote 2024 gave that as their reason.

      It’s fucking insane so many people immediately started denying that was the biggest issue

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        13 days ago

        The stupidity is with these fools thinking Trump would be better for Palestinians.

        If it wasn’t obvious with Trump moving the embassy to Jeruselum and telling Bibi to, “Finish the job” while privately meeting with Bibi to likely stall a ceasefire agreement pre-election to make Democrats look back, Trump definitely is fully enabling of said Genocide, likely making it worse (eg, you think he would’ve pressed for a humanitarian aid route into Gaza? FUCK no.)

        So then the logical thing to say in an inevitable binary-choice election is: “if Trump and Biden/Harris are equally bad on Israel/Palestine policy (they’re not), is Biden/Harris better on other issues, notably domestically, like oh I don’t know women’s rights and climate change?” You bet your ass.

        Hence why couch sitters and Stein voters piss me off far more than Trump supporters, themselves; for they should know better. Yet they fell for the online astroturfing disinfo wars. Drank the Russian vodka.


        Edit: The user below keeps curiously deflecting, so I’ll just cut to the chase by going above:

        Genocide (a) has a spectrum of severity and is not a boolean function, while (b) Gaza isn’t the only place an attempted Genocide is currently being carried out; Ukraine is another place — and it is abundantly clear that both Biden and Harris were better than the Putin-sympathizing puppet that is Trump. So if you didn’t vote, worked against Harris, voted Stein, etc. then YOU, too, are complicit with blood on your hands of WORSENING not one but TWO genocides.

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          13 days ago

          Uh… Trump actually did something about Gaza so it seems the Gaza protest non-voters got what they wanted.

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            13 days ago

            Your fallacies are:

            • Post Hoc Ergo Propter Hoc
            • Begging the Question / Circular reasoning

            Try not to construct your beliefs atop a flimsy house of cards.

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                12 days ago

                I’m still chuckling that people are trusting anonymous Arabian sources and not recognizing this for the obvious political theatrics it is. (Hint: this is the Circular Reasoning fallacy part, where one has yet to prove the original premise before leaping to illogical conclusions).

                I mean, really, do you think he’s this TOUGH NEGOTIATOR after all these years and not a complete Reality TV star phony playing games of optics with Bibi behind closed doors? Hahahahahaha!

                The ceasefire hardly even matters anymore. The vast majority of civilian deaths have already occurred and Gaza is nothing but razed ruins and rubble. Trump told Bibi to “Finish the job” with Gaza, and Bibi basically did just that.

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        13 days ago

        Big? Sure. Biggest? No. Biggest was “the economy”. It’s practically a law of nature that inflation ends governments.

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        13 days ago

        are you noticing that your comment regarding the yougov poll stating this fact is getting more engagement than any of the other comments and are you also noticing that they’re all refuting it?

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          13 days ago

          Nope, but I block alot of people who refuse to address how to gain voters back and just want to screech at them (even tho they’ll never see/hear it).

          It makes social media a lot better and I highly recommend it.