• WraithGear@lemmy.world
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    8 days ago

    Oof… just because the Russians are our enemies now, doesn’t mean they were Nazis during world war II. They fought the Nazi a lot longer than America did for sure.

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      8 days ago

      doesn’t mean they were Nazis during world war II.

      Tell this to anyone in Eastern Europe who is not a Russian ;)

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      8 days ago

      Yeah they fought the Nazis - but first they made a deal with the Nazis to divide eastern Europe and going on a campaign of rape and plunder. You should look into the atrocities committed by the USSR during the 20th century - Germany paid a heavy price for their evils. Russia never did.

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        7 days ago

        Yeah, the non aggression pact, trying to save what was left of Poland. (Guess where the Jewish people fled?) Its not like it was the only country(which unlike others, had reasons, tsarist regime and the civil war are not great for neither the army nor people) which was wishing to isolate itself from expanding Nazi Germany, not like US was neutral(and the businesses were allied) regarding Nazi Germany till last moment. And no, Germany did not pay a heavy price, just the rhetoric about Muslims in the German politics today can say that.

        Also, I would like to mention, the fight against Fascism was done by the SOVIET PEOPLE, not only by Russians (my human waves!!!), this alone says a lot about your knowledge of history…

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          Also, Britain and France signed a non-agression pact with the Nazis too, and not only that, they sold out Czechoslovakia (who they were allied to) in exchange! Meanwhile, the Soviets had previously sought agreements with them against the Nazis which were rejected.

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        8 days ago

        The Soviet Union lost 27 million people fighting the Nazis, wtf is this Nazi apologia?

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            7 days ago

            It’s an objective historical fact that the Soviets lost 27 million fighting the Nazis. If that’s Soviet apologia, then I guess reality has a Soviet bias.

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          7 days ago

          How many millions of that 27 million were shot by their own commissar for retreating, or from being used as cannon fodder in mass human wave attacks, where the hope was the Germans would run out of ammo?

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            7 days ago

            You should do actual historical research instead of believing baseless and ridiculous propaganda. Tell me, where did you hear about any of those claims? Let me guess, Enemy at the Gates?

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            7 days ago

            Of course, “Russians are also subhuman and only used human waves”. The sacrifice of the tens of millions of the Soviet people towards defeating fascism was to be never forgotten. Yet here we are… While the USSR struggled to fight a major financed power (Nazi Germany was actually in pretty good relations to the US and British businesses, example is Ford), after having a civil war, and trying to scrape by with whatever bullshit the Tsarist Regime has left to them. US tried to stay isolated from the conflict, because they if anything, had better relations with the Nazi Germany than with the Soviet Union.

            This comment is disgusting, people died defending not only their republics from fascism, but liberated others. And you boil it all down to " Human Waves", simple historical research will prove you not only wrong, but also racist. (Guess who invented the “Russian human wave” myth?) I wish for you to reconsider your frankly racist opinions…

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            7 days ago

            I won’t deny that they did some awful things, but to be like, “At least the Nazis paid the price” is completely whitewashing the atrocities that the Soviets suffered at the hands of the Nazis, it’s absolutely Nazi apologia to say that.