Please stop falling for efforts to divide the working class.
Amy such efforts should immediately be viewed as suspicious. The divide is not old vs young, or white vs black, or even rich vs poor. It is the capital class versus the labor class.
Boomers grew up in a very tiny slice of global history where the working class actually got improvements in their material conditions, so it is hard for them to understand the struggles of people before or after… but they are being ground down by capitalism the same as the rest of us.
Your comrades at work may not understand the importance of unions or collective action, but they are still your comrades. Your grandmother may not realize that all of her extra productivity went to make billionaires richer, but she is still your comrade.
I despise most of the boomers
I bought a lawnmower from someone online and went to pick it up. The lady was a turbo hoarder in her late 60’s she was smoking and smelled like a brewery. Her home was DISGUSTING. And i mean rat shit on the countertop. The only reason i was in her house was because there was so much shit around her house that the only way into her backyard was through the house. If you haven’t seen it, you can not understand how bizzare it was to carry a lawnmower through a hoarder house, when she had technically a big yard around.
I just wanted to get the fuck out of here when she said: a lot of people wanted the lawnmower, but she doesn’t sell it to anyone (she mant she didn’t sell it to immigrants). And: “no offence to you, but your generation is absolutely useless.” It was like some weird snl sketch
Among all my friends, there are two clear common denominators between those who rent and those who own houses. The ones renting have office jobs and live in the capital, while the ones who own houses live in smaller cities or the countryside and work in manual labor.
I’m not saying correlation is causation, but it’s an interesting observation - and so far, it applies to 100% of my friends.
Or have office jobs and commute a bit longer.
People say I’m crazy for commuting 1,5 hours (one way). But I get to go home to my own property. Especially now with hybrid working still being a thing, I only go to the office once or twice a week.
I must agree with the people saying you’re crazy for having that long commute. That’s over a month spent getting to and from work every year. Time is the most valuable asset in the entire world. By working we’re trading time for money but for the time spent commuting you’re not even getting paid. I would seriously consider trying to find an alternative solution to this.
If they go to the office twice a week with an hour and a half commute each way that’s six hours a week driving. So 52 weeks a year that’s 312 hours or 13 days. Still not great but my commute is about 30min one way. I work five days a week so five hours a week, which would still be about 10 2/3 days a year. They also said they only have to commute once OR twice a week so they still probably drive less then the 13 days a year.
I’m just saying, sounds like a good deal
Well that should be easy to fix. Just have a world war with a general draft and all for about 5 years. Then another one soon after in an arbitrary place. That sort of thing really brings people together, and also kills many of them, all contributing to a healthy housing market!
Um, life was maybe easy-ish for some boomers. Plenty of them got reamed by the many boom/bust cycles. Boomers lived through stagflation, two oil embargoes, Vietnam, the 80s fad of downsizing/rightsizing, many losing farms in the 80s, the 90s rush to offshore and outsource everything, the deskilling of Americans and the export of most manufacturing, NAFTA reordering things, the rise of big box retailers and further deskilling, the disintegration of unions, the Wall Street crash of 1987, the dot-com bubble burst in early 00s, the real-estate crash in 2008, etc. Gen X and millennials suffered some of these later ones, too, or dealt with the fallout from their parents having these struggles.
The ageist shit is just a distraction. Generations are not really a thing; it’s more of a marketing strategy and also a way for the elites to further atomize Americans. Don’t fall for it.
It is more about how policies were set at the national level. Those policies have benefited them throughout their lifetimes. Boomers going to college. College is affordable. Boomers buying house make family. House good and affordable on one wage. Boomers working hard providing for wife and 2.5 kiddos. Jobs pay good and has pension. Family affordable one wage. Boomers retiring???
Yeah anyone is capable of taking their situation for granted.
Hey throw millenials in this too please.
And GenX. I bet a lot of them feel it too unless dementia has already set in.
nah yall are cringe and unfunny, pick up some humor first and we’ll include yall.
Maybe gen x could like, do something, for once. Maybe then people would care about them.
alright that’s enough of my generational slander quota for the day. Have a good day random internet people :)
Fuck off and die.
What exactly do you think we aren’t doing? I’ve worked for years except when I was a stay-at-home parent. I even owned my own company and employed others for a while. I try to spend at least two hours of my time a week on political action. What else do I have to do for you to think people should care that I exist? Come up with more fresh memes?
Okay Gen Skibidi toilet, peak humor…
Thats Alpha tho…
Skibidi represents every generation raised in the brain rot of the algorithm so Gen Z onwards.
Watch out, they might “prank” you by tormenting a homeless person or something
eat my bum worms
Are people under the impression everyone who had a 40 hour a week job had their own house?
Everyone? No. Far, far more people than now? Absolutely.
In 1990 my mom stayed home and raised us. My dad worked a measly construction job and we lived in a two story, 5 bedroom house (which they lost after the 2008 collapse, I took it over and lost in 2012).
My mom was also able to borrow against that house over and over again for cars.
Around 1996 my dad got his CDLs and drove a coal truck.
We bought that house for 30k.
My aunt bought a huge colonial house with 8 bedrooms for roughly 60k in 1979-80. She never worked. Her husband was a coal miner.
When it burned down in 1996, she bought a beautiful brick home in a wonderful neighborhood for 100k. She sold that same house recently for 600k.
The difference is absurd.
A “measly construction job” is a good paying one. A person working at a McDonald’s for 40 hours a week at that time would not be able to afford an apartment let alone a house. When your aunt bought her house interest rates were in the teens, today they are 7% and that’s a record high. My parents bought a house in 1976 for $28,000 dad worked full time at a city job plus always had a second job or side hustle. Our family would strip copper to make ends meet. Mom cooked every meal, eating out was a rare treat. Never once did we even order pizza, Mom make it with powder dough. We didn’t have cable. Got by on two junker cars sometimes one.
Every generation has it’s challenges. This is the first to have a public circle jerk/pity party
Every generation has it’s challenges
And the younger ones have an objective, mathematically proven worse version of the challenges than the earlier ones did
Nobody claimed it was ever perfect, only that it’s worse now, which it is
Haha I love it when kids tell me what my life was like.
Back to my original point. No, not everyone who worked 40 hours a week could afford a house.
You can wrap yourself in self pity or you can be resourceful, your choice.
Mate, a smaller percentage of our generation has houses. Wrap ya head around that. No one’s arguing every other generation had a house, that would be idiotic.
So self pity it is
Yours.
Okay but… where’s the news?
Many in GenX does, though.
https://www.redfin.com/news/homeownership-rate-by-generation-2023/
I mean not really that far of from boomers.
78.8% vs 26%?
My parents holding fast with “well, it’s always been like that” made me realize how big this generational divide is.
There are good boomers who get it, yes. There are also some really dumb ones who have literally no clue what kind of world they helped create. Full stop.
And there are some Nazi gen z. We have to pull together the good ones from every generation and become helpers together. We can’t bitch about the ones that are shit, there are shit people in every generation, so it’s a waste of time and a distraction.
Yes, 100% this. There are plenty of boomers that got reamed by various elitist schemes, too. People right on the cusp of retirement only to have everything wiped out by something like an Enron or the real-estate bubble and they get to keep working another 10+ years…I think people have rose-colored glasses when it comes to the things boomers faced, too. It was not all sunshine and roses for everyone in that age bracket. It is lunacy to suggest that it was/is.
There may be some boomers doing nefarious things like Blackstone, driving up the cost of living for everyone, but I bet there are some very, very young people in schemes like that, too, making lots of money. Or individuals like fElon’s boyz - I don’t think the Dogebags are boomers. And fElon himself is Gen X…
Then there are headlines that I see like this that run counter to virtually everything you’d hear about Gen Y in recent years:
https://www.newsnationnow.com/business/your-money/millennials-financially-baby-boomers/
Lastly when the bullshit inter-generational warfare is whipped up, I remember this…
fElon
You call him like that every time. Please stop. It feels like Russian propaganda bot is talking. It’s bad and not funny to distort people’s names/surnames
If Elon can’t respect people’s names and allows deadnaming on Twitter, I think it’s only fair to not respect his name.
This is some whataboutism. If he did this, it doesn’t mean that it should be acceptable.
Respect is earned. And generally mutual. You don’t respect people, I won’t respect you. I see no reason to respect anything about that Nazi.
In this case you can just call them by their surname, as they do with strangers
I hate this idea that people need to work themselves to death to survive. We have such a surplus of resources today that people should barely have to work. I don’t know what it was that pulled the mask off this farce of a system we have, but it sure as shit isn’t worth it to bust my ass for 45 years so the CEO or FuCKYou Incorporated can get another bigger yacht.
We have tons of excess. The problem is it’s hoarded by a small tyrannical group of psychopaths bent on increasing their wealth at the cost of everyone else.
I feel like these two comments really should be at the top.
I worked 40 hours a week and could not afford a house so I got a second job, worked my ass off for 5 years, saved a down payment and bought a 3 bedroom with a 2 stall garage on a half acre at an auction for $38k cash. I didn’t cry about having to work more, I called it an opportunity to be able to. I put another 30k into the house and used it as a stepping stone to get into a nicer place. Then I went back to one job. I did all this while being a single parent of a teen daughter.
What year did you buy the house for 38k?
and bought a 3 bedroom with a 2 stall garage on a half acre at an auction for $38k cash.
aha hahahahahhahahahahhahahahahhahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahha
The whole scenario you described is the problem. You shouldn’t need to do that to yourself. The whole argument is the boomer generation was able to mostly have one parent working, supporting a family of 4, and owning a home COMFORTABLY. That is virtually nonexistent for current generations. Rising housing costs have far exceeded wage growth for decades now.
$38K LMAOOOOOOOO
Yeah try that again but this time for $300k, asshole
Maybe try not being such a whiny bitch and pay attention to what they are trying to tell you.
Around here you wouldn’t even be getting a 3-bed house with 2-bay garage for that price, unless it’s a real fixer-upper. Maybe for $500-600k.
$38K?? For half an acre, 3 bedrooms and a 2 stall garage?
At an auction. Meaning it was a house that was foreclosed on. Oftentimes, they go for very cheap, sight unseen, and you need cash in hand. Granted the laws for that differ per state.
Oftentimes, they go for very cheap, sight unseen
What could possibly go wrong? That’s definitely worth a massive financial risk.
How’s your relationship with your daughter now?
How did she feel about you choosing to work instead of spending that time with her?
Right? I have put my child first in everything I do since the day I was born and I know for a fact that she would be much less happy if we were richer but I was gone all the time.
As it is, she has a dad who stayed at home to raise her for the first two years of her life and a dad who also was able to stay at home and put her through online school because she was severely bullied for being queer and autistic to the point that the whole school was against her- but I have always been available to her and always had her back and I know she appreciates it even as a surly teenager.
And right now, we’re living in a crappy and small apartment and she is fine with it because I picked it in a location I knew she would enjoy and she gets to go out and have adventures on her own and will always have a dad she can come back to if there are any problems.
Fuck these “I worked 80 hours a week for my family and that’s why they’re in a 5-bedroom McMansion today” people. You are working for yourself. Spend less time working and more time with your kids.
Congrats?
The point being if you want something, you work for it, not condemn the economy and give up.
Ah, I see H.G. Wells’ The Time Machine was based in fact.
Welcome to the 21st century, traveler!
The issues today don’t stem from less work effort, then stem from opportunity lost. You can say you worked hard and that’s great but that same amount of work then doesn’t equal the same amount of output now for the worker.
Yes, the economy for the majority sucks because of the taxes being so low on the upper percentiles. Generations have voted people in who supported wealth gap growth and didn’t support the middle class. Stop blaming it on the youth, the youth werent the ones voting for what they got. Responsibility lies with those who came before them
Think about all that time you could have had with your daughter instead.
the real point is to be a good worker and let the billionaires reap the benefits
That’s a terrible way to look at the situation, did you ever wonder why it was even necessary in the first place to do that to yourself?
Most boomers don’t know what it’s like to work 40+ hours a week. Their parents made the system better, and they assume they didn’t fuck it up.
I’d say that they don’t remember. They probably did when they first started out. Their first starting out phase was much shorter though.
Maybe the boomers need to stop working and die, so the better paying jobs and wealth can come to the younger generations.
I think you’re going to get your wish. They’re not paying for all kind of social funding (low income housing for the elderly, for example). Yay?
It’s a shame that my sarcastic comment might have to be taken seriously in 2025, depending on what ORAGNE does.
And yet Gen Z turned out for… Trump? He’ll surely help the economy and enable a new era of magically plentiful high paying, stable jobs.
Less than half of us voted. As a member of Gen Z who voted for Khamala its because the only good thing she does is not be Trump.
A good portion of our generations more liberal/left-leaning side just got done having the shit beaten out of them by cops before getting kicked out of school for protesting against the genocide in Gaza.
What makes you think any of these people want to turn around and vote for a law-and-order ex-DA who’s ignoring some of the worst atrocities of out times?
Everyone in this generation who isn’t jaded and disillusioned is a fascist or fascist sympathiser (same difference :p). No one has the energy to care let alone vote.
They probably won’t until establishment democrats keel over, and unfortunately it looks like medical science kept them alive and puttering until it was too late.
Less than half of us voted. As a member of Gen Z who DID vote for Khamala its because the only good thing she does is not be Trump.
WHICH IS WHY YOU VOTE FOR SOMEONE.
God I hate that Americans have decided that you vote for the person you like rather than vote to stop the worst person.
You’re never going to get a pony, so do what you can or they’ll make you be a pony. And not in a happy way. In a “work in the mines all your life” way.
Oh well, too late now.
WHICH IS WHY YOU VOTE FOR SOMEONE.
They said to the person who voted blue. Im not telling you don’t vote, I’m telling you why most people my age who didn’t want Trump didn’t vote. I don’t know what more you want from me.
You’re never going to get a pony, so do what you can or they’ll make you be a pony. And not in a happy way. In a “work in the mines all your life” way.
Ending the horrors of late stage capitalism isn’t asking for a pony its the bare minimum to ensure the continued survival of our species.
Boomers protested Vietnam. Millennials Iraq.
Kids want change. Sometimes that is for a good cause and sometimes it is about draining the swamp and hurting others.
But if you needed to be convinced that it was worth voting against a rapist fascist who hid nothing? You were never an ally.
Its not that they need convincing to vote against it, its that they needed to be convinced their vote would even fucking do anything.
“We did nothing and we’re out of ideas” is not the good argument you seem to think it is.
Oh sweety, its not that I don’t have ideas, its that most of them are rule breaking. :)
And a rapist openly running on project 2025 would not be any “fucking” different?
Would it make my life and the lives of millions of other Americans easier by not having a target painted on our backs for probably as long as our country stands? (We’ll probably never see another election again IMO) Yeah sure, that’s why I voted for Khamala.
That being said she wasn’t going to do anything to meaningfully stop the horrors of late stage capitalism. Either way I’m probably going to die by middle age in the climate wars.
Its just now that they’ll happen even sooner, and now I have to worry about being put in a camp because of my prescription to estrogen.
Ones certainly worse, but neither actually seemingly give me the possibility of living a full and happy life. Even if I do make it to old age I’ll be living in a dying world, clinging to whatever habitable sliver of earth I’d have the privilege of finding.
Honestly until we start being friendly and share cookies with the ghouls hiding behind the funds managed by Americas institutional investment firms which collectively own everything, I don’t think we’ll be solving anything.
Yeah sure, that’s why I voted for Khamala.
I’m starting to disbelieve you since you’ve misspelled her name twice and it was on signs everywhere.
Actually that level of ignorance is pretty on par for the average American voter.
Its just now that they’ll happen even sooner, and now I have to worry about being put in a camp because of my prescription to estrogen.
And that alone should have been reason enough for anyone who actually gave even the slightest of shits.
Growing up is realizing you aren’t going to win. But you can lessen harm.
Yeah except that for previous generations not “winning” wasn’t an inherent global existential threat.
Its hard to be motivated when you know either way you’re not getting the full life you where promised. Especially when the issue at hand is someone else’s problem. (From the perspective of my cis Gen Z counterparts.)
I’m not saying its the right way to operate, I’m saying its how lots of people do naturally. Its unfortunately human, and its taken advantage of by design.
Its easy to keep people preoccupied when they’re a weeks pay away from starvation.
I think she got so many votes because she wasn’t Trump. And thats it. She was so frustrating as a candidate who was “super Law and Order DA from liberal land, California. She’s the best of both worlds!”
Christ she was so bad at being charismatic. I liked her when she made fun of Trump so hard he refused to ever debate her again. But then she tried to play both sides and toured with Liz Cheney. It’s like, the entire message of her failed campaign will look at all the answers but the right one: she wasn’t an active evil fascist. She just supported fascism her whole life and learned to make concessions to sound more progressive. Gen Z will learn to hate the DNC.
She had a lot of potential as a candidate that the DNC just refused to use.
