EU monitor says global temperatures were 1.75C above preindustrial levels, extending run of unprecedented highs

Climate scientists had expected this exceptional spell to subside after a warming El Niño event peaked in January 2024 and conditions shifted to an opposing, cooling La Niña phase. But the heat has lingered at record or near-record levels, prompting debate about what other factors could be driving it to the top end of expectations.

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      Presumably the climate scientists are, in fact, aware of climate change. Presumably the current behaviour doesn’t fit their models which account for climate change and they’re now looking for answers.

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    “Mystifies”

    Only in the sense of “this is much worse than we expected and we don’t know why”, not in the sense of “oh, a hot January, how mystifying”

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      As far as I can tell we are still on the worst case scenario path so im pretty sure any realistic expectation would have it but all the things want to pretend like even though we barely try as a species we will somehow be on the best case because god or something.

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        This is why I’ve been shouting for nearly two decades that it doesn’t matter how benign a religion is, or if it brings people peace and positivity. Any organization which incubates the tendency toward magical thinking is an existence level threat to our survival.

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          That’s a human trait though. At a certain point you have to trust the information coming in, or else group dynamics just don’t work.

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    One theory is that a global shift to cleaner shipping fuels in 2020 accelerated warming by reducing sulphur emissions that make clouds more mirror-like and reflective of sunlight.

    Paradoxically, we might be accelerating warming by burning less sulphur emitting fuels. Clean the air, heat up faster. It’s still a matter of debate, however, now much the reduction in sulphur emissions is causing the current accelerated warming. It’s entirely possible there are other factors at play, as well. That’s not going to stop people from advocating for geoengineering, though. Pump more sulphur dioxide into the atmosphere, cool the planet. I don’t know, I suppose.

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    EU monitor says global temperatures were 1.75C above preindustrial levels,

    I cannot comprehend how it isn’t more? The weather has changed noticeably from just 15 years ago.
    The past 5 years where I live (Denmark), we’ve only had very few days with frost through the whole winter, even the nights are almost all frost free.
    Back in the 70’s, almost all of January and February would have frost.

    I know memory is fallible, but can I really be that wrong? When we also have stories from around the norrth pole, that the temperatues now are a massive 20° C warmer than usual for this time of year.

    The scientists are probably right, they obviously have lots more data then me, it just seems worse here than 1.75° C here.
    The article claims it’s wetter some places but drier in others. But we read a lot about record rain all over the world. And mostly places that are already dry are getting drier?

    Seems to me the trend is that we are getting a LOT more rain, which is only logical, because warmer air suck more water from the oceans, so rain is what probably 80% of the globe should expect more of.

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      That number is the global average, meaning there will be spots on the planet that see more change, and some that haven’t seem much. While going strictly from memory isn’t the most accurate way to be sure, don’t doubt your gut feelings. Things have been changing.

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        This is true, but we don’t have as much extreme weather here as many other places. Storms are a bit stronger, temperatures are a bit higher, and we get a lot of rain. But nothing catastrophic, so from the news it just seems like most places are actually worse than here? There are places around the world that are becoming unlivable due to extreme heat.

        Maybe it’s just hard to understand what the numbers really mean, but for sure it’s very noticeable now,which it wasn’t in the early dqays of the talk of global warming.

        PS:
        I prefer and recommend to call it global warming, because that’s what it really is, and also what the scientists termed it originally.
        To call it climate change is giving in to global warming deniers, that used the term climate change exclusively for political reasons.
        Climate change is a natural global cycle, but global warming is threatening life on earth. HUGE difference.

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          I used to feel that way, but the term isn’t a copout….

          It’s more than global warming. We’re not just warming the environment but destabilizing weather patterns and climate in ways that can be much worse for everyone.

          People can dismiss a small shift in average temperature as something you can easily adjust to: just wear a sweater. But it’s much harder to adjust to more and worse storms, receding coastlines and increased flooding, agricultural areas that can no longer grow crops, long term water shortages, Western Europe losing its climate moderation, huge losses of biodiversity. And yes destabilized weather patterns means some places will get colder or wetter, and that will also probably be bad

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          It’s both terms. There never was a name switching, that’s a conspiracy made up by climate deniers to create a feeling of question. Global warming is the cause, climate change is what is occurring. And one of the first papers that warned of this occurrence actually used the the term “climatic change”. If you feel climate change isn’t a strong enough phrase, then separate it from the natural version by calling this period “abrupt climate change”, because it’s the rate of change that is the real problem, as nothing can adapt well to the sudden shift, maybe even not us.

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            No it’s literally global warming because the increased greenhouse gasses are creating a greenhouse effect causing global warming.
            Climate change is part of a normal cycle too, so calling it climate change camouflages the fact that it’s human made, and will never be able to get back to balance by itself as with natural changes in the climate.

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        That’s right. There are places on Earth that are now 4-5 °C hotter than before while others are now colder. But on average the temperature increased by 1.75 °C.

        Where I live we get less frost in winter too. But it is also expected that a lot of places near the equator will heat up so much in the next few decades that human settlements will be impossible. Those people will then migrate. Guess where they’ll go to.

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          They will patiently wait for visas to neighboring countries we also don’t care about, while their children starve?

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    Mark my words, we passed a yet-to-be-identified tipping point.
    Wouldn’t surprise me if we reached the next milestone of +2 before 2030.

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      Hollywood reassured me that the planet has an as yet unknown mechanism for rapid cooling though! Surely they wouldn’t lie.

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      It’s very scary indeed, and add to that the “new” policy of “fuck the planet, let’s pollute” by one of the most polluting nations in the world.

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          Yeah, that seems reasonable and about what I would predict given how things are progressing ATM!

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    A trend that’s been visible and trackable for years “mystifies” researchers? They’re in the wrong profession if that’s true.

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      I wonder if reading the article would explain why they are so mystified? Or even reading the little blurb OP pasted in the body of this post?

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        I know it’s about the effects of one specific system. My post is more whining about clickbaity titles.

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          What? It’s literally about not knowing what system or systems is causing this. There’s no clickbait. They are mystified. That is a fact.

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            The clickbait part is the “D’uh” that scientists are mystified by January being hottest. No, models predicted a medium term trend caused by El Niño that didn’t seem to happen

            Models are never perfect, will always be tweaked to try to improve accuracy. That’s pretty much the definition of science. There will always be something not yet accounted for, and people working to account for it. Yet that title makes it look like predictions are wrong. While that may be true in the details, from our perspective nothing has changed. Maybe this is the real problem with today’s society: technical details that always interested those of us interested in science, engineering, data, are now pushed to everyone. Most people don’t have the perspective to really understand and the clickbait headlines try to instill an outrage that is not appropriate

            Why do we need to be outraged by small inaccuracies in the model that do not affect the overall prediction nor even most of the details. That will likely not be noticeable to the rest of us