• 11111one11111@lemmy.world
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    17 hours ago

    Its crazy to think if I weren’t a US citizen and was reading this, I’d think “man that’s 50 individual locations for everyone to be able to participate if they want.”

    When the reality is, if I wanted to attend my New York Stare protest in Albany, id be looking at a 5-6ish one way trip, 10-12hrs round trip just driving. I’m totally guessing tho. Ive never gone from my house to Albany before. Only ever went there from either the adks or NYC coming back to Buffalo with other stops on the way home. I’ve always used 7 1/2hrs as the time it takes to get to NYC so that’s where I’m getting 5-6hrs Buffalo to Albany.

    Tldr: Yo, America’s big as fuck.

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      12 hours ago

      Nah, 50 locations is rookie numbers. Like, Germany has 715 cities over 20k pop and I just checked and yep the smallest one did have a protest in 2024 when the AfD “remigration” plans became public.

      Protest where you live. Protest where people are. Wait that doesn’t work in the US. Protest on the Walmart parking lot. Fuck trying to hit individual record numbers on prime time news noone cares noone watches that shit if it even gets reported, be visible to your neighbours they can’t censor that. Think globally, act locally. Have grandmas and cookies.

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        4 hours ago

        Lol homie, where are you getting 715 cities in Germany from? According to Wikipedia, Germany has 11 cities.

        1. Berlin/Brandenburg Metropolitan Region

        2. Central German Metropolitan Region

        3. Frankfurt/Rhine-Main Metropolitan Region

        4. Hamburg Metropolitan Region

        5. Hannover-Braunschweig-Göttingen-Wolfsburg Metropolitan Region

        6. Munich Metropolitan Region

        7. Northwest Metropolitan Region

        8. Nuremberg Metropolitan Region

        9. Rhine-Neckar Metropolitan Region

        10. Rhine-Ruhr Metropolitan Region (also covers the Cologne Bonn Region)

        11. Stuttgart Metropolitan Region

        Is this a translation thing where you are calling every municipality a “city?” If that’s the case then the comparison would be 715 towns/villages/cities for Germany vs approximately 30,000 towns/villages/cities in the USA.

        The organized protests are only happening in each state’s capital. Which is one city per state that someone a long time ago in a galaxy far far away decided would be called that State’s Capital City.

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          The German directly translates to “Large and medium cities”. Small ones are smaller, and yes in English at some point you’d use “town”, German doesn’t make that distinction. I think “over 20k people” makes it very clear what I was talking about, though. They’re all individual municipalities, and if you look at large ones, e.g. Berlin: They have multiple protests about the same topic all the time. “Stadt”, “city”, doesn’t even have legal meaning in German it originally refers to special privileges (trading etc) that some places had over others, and those places tended to grow bigger.

          What you’re listing is Metropolitan areas and no, that’s not anywhere close to a city. I understand that it’s often used that way in English, and there’s some parallels in Germany e.g. the Bay Area can be in some way considered one city, and so can the Ruhr Area, but when you look at Berlin-Brandenburg it’s literally the two states: Berlin and Brandenburg. That’s like… imagine Chicago being its own, independent, state, and then considering it and the whole of Illinois to be “the same city”, the smallest municipality (that’s the actual legal term) with the title “Stadt” is Arnis. 300 people, down from a maximum of 1000. Quirk of history.

          20k pop is large enough to be a medium centre, meaning that the municipality provides things such as hospitals, specialised doctors, secondary education etc. to the municipalities around it because it’s the big kid on the block. About 7k pop would be a subordinate centre where you can get stuff like groceries and a hair cut, there’s a primary school, a pharmacy, such things. Even smaller places may have some of those things but do it for themselves, they aren’t set up to serve the surrounding area a complete package.

          The organized protests are only happening in each state’s capital.

          And that’s stupid. People won’t come because it’s not something just about anyone can work into their schedule, and you won’t be seen because only people living in the capital will randomly drop by. Differently put: Protests should be in commute distance, ideally on that very commute. Hence why I mentioned Walmart.

          If we did that in Germany there’d be 16 protests, and population-wise btw the average German state is just about as large as the average US state: You have a few gigantic ones like California, and also some that are smaller than our smallest state, but mostly you simply have more states. And a lot more area.

          Going by “A protest in every 20k pop place” Minnesota alone would have about 60, then add the county seats over 7k to that.

          As said: Rookie numbers. That was my point. You’re not doing a protest wave, you’re doing rookie numbers.

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      I just plugged in my state capital into my driving app. It says it will take 6 hours and 51 minutes one-way. Yeah, I can’t even afford the gas for that. So I checked public transportation and it said 12 hours one-way and one of the three tickets I’d have to buy was $100. Your tldr is spot on.

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        Thanks for the only rational reply lol. All the love to the other two replies but one of those starts out, “America isn’t a country it’s a continent.” ??? While the other comment is telling me the 715 municipalities in Germany dwarf the 50 locations in the US. Lol. Cheers for following the conversation rationally 🍻

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      America’s not a country. It is a continent.

      America’s government is not a government. It is the largest, most varied, most complex single human organization that has ever existed. Also the most powerful. But very little of it is organized. And almost all of it, to almost everyone, is invisible.

      America’s culture is not a culture. It has cultures within in, and some are quite good. Once you’ve met with the beating heart, it’s hard to forget. But like the onion it has no center. Once you reach the center of the dream, you realize it is nothing but marketing, it never existed.

      America is sleeping fitfully. America died long ago. America has yet to be born. America was always a lie.