• merc@sh.itjust.works
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    11 hours ago

    What annoys me is that people are buying the idea that BlueSky is federated.

    Not only is it not federated, the very architecture they designed means that it’s probably not federateable, at least not by normal users.

    The way they designed it, a relay is required to collect and forward every single BlueSky post. That means, as the service grows, it becomes more and more impossible for anybody but a company to run a relay. Someone did some calculations back in November when it was a significantly smaller network, and they calculated that at a minimum it costs a few hundred dollars, possibly as much as 1000 bucks a month just to handle the disk storage needs for a relay on a leased server. The more the network grows, the more those costs skyrocket.

    What good does it do to have a network that theoretically can be federated, but practically costs so much to run a single node that nobody except a for-profit company can manage it?

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      2 hours ago

      I’m not familiar with Blue sky, do they advertise as federated or how exactly do they claim to differ from a regular platform like original Twitter?

      • MimicJar@lemmy.world
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        1 minute ago

        https://docs.bsky.app/docs/advanced-guides/federation-architecture

        And reading an article from TechCrunch,

        “The social network has a Twitter-like user interface with algorithmic choice, a federated design and community-specific moderation.”

        “Is Bluesky decentralized? Yes. Bluesky’s team is developing the decentralized AT Protocol, which Bluesky was built atop.”

        “However, the launch of federation will make it work more similarly to Mastodon in that users can pick and choose which servers to join and move their accounts around at will.”


        So it definitely is pitching that is it decentralized and federated. Maybe the argument is that it “will be”, but at the moment it is not and at the moment it does not look like it will be an actual possibility.

        Now people leaving Twitter is great, don’t get me wrong, but it’s possibly just kicking the can down the road. In a few years we’ll likely have articles complaining about missing “Old Bluesky” and how “new Bluesky” has the exact same problems that “Old Twitter” had.

    • pls@lemmy.plaureano.nohost.me
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      7 hours ago

      Weird, I had a bluesky add-on on my experimental friendica installation and have not noticed any messages other than the ones people I followed participated in.

      I have since deleted it, so cannot figure out what they have done differently.

    • Bilb!@lem.monster
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      8 hours ago

      I guess it could allow multiple funding models. Instance A is ad supported, instance B is a paid service. Not exciting for us self hosters, but there is possibility there.