According to American laws, they aren’t breaking any, technically. They are also unidentified as of yet, only claimed to exist by Musk. Although he’s a complete fucking idiot, he’s smart enough to keep them off the government books so their identity doesn’t become public record. They’ll slip up though.
I’m not aware of anything that specifically prevents OPM from lying to the federal civil service (about the terms of a buyout offer) in an email. Or from making empty threats about “consequences” in ten days or whatever.
As far as I know, the President is legally entitled to control OPM pretty unilaterally. Like OMB.
A lot of hoopla has been made about Musk and the Bureau of the Fiscal Service. But I’m not aware of anything that has been definitely illegal so far. (Unless he starts messing with legally mandated payments. BFS is basically just a fancy check printing house. All of the important fiscal decisions are supposed to be made in other government departments, offices, and Congressional appropriations.)
The only things I know about that are probably squarely illegal are the IG firings, and the EOs that are already in litigation. In the case of the IGs, I’m not sure if there any kind of substantial enforcement mechanism.
This act prohibits federal agencies from obligating or expending federal funds in advance or in excess of an appropriation, and from accepting voluntary services.
Yes, that is not the name of his team. The same unidentified people he had in the Treasury Payment system, and the same group he’s been touting since the election.
Your comments are confusing. Who are you referring to using the words “unidentified people”?
When I use https://archive.is/YAmss#selection-729.0-729.118 I see a list of names of engineers, which is surely a list of “The Young, Inexperienced Engineers Aiding Elon Musk’s Government Takeover”.
There are literally dozens of instances of these people bragging about this shit, and Musk referring to his “dark team”.
If you’re coming here and asserting they don’t exist, there’s the door you absolutely blind shill.
There are dozens of instances of him SPECIFICALLY referencing this “young team of upstarts” in helping with his Super PAC as well, and “looking into elections”.
If you’re too dumb to put this all together, he has a team of engineers he’s paying in crypto so he’s not tied to it or on the books that is subversive to out government, the law, elections, and by all accounts “norms”. He is not an elected official. He’s also bragged about using the same team in Germany RIGHT NOW.
If you’re coming here and asserting they don’t exist
I don’t think “his “dark team”” doesn’t exist, because people that you are probably referring to are named the news article this discussion is based on.
Were you referring to “The Young, Inexperienced Engineers Aiding Elon Musk’s Government Takeover” using the words “unidentified people”?
According to American laws, they aren’t breaking any, technically. They are also unidentified as of yet, only claimed to exist by Musk. Although he’s a complete fucking idiot, he’s smart enough to keep them off the government books so their identity doesn’t become public record. They’ll slip up though.
What?
They broke multiple with the very first email…
Then the anti deficiency act with the promise of pay past what is budgeted…
And a bunch of smaller ones.
Who the hell told you they haven’t broken any laws and why are you listening to them?
Can you cite any specific statutes or CFRs?
I’m not aware of anything that specifically prevents OPM from lying to the federal civil service (about the terms of a buyout offer) in an email. Or from making empty threats about “consequences” in ten days or whatever.
As far as I know, the President is legally entitled to control OPM pretty unilaterally. Like OMB.
A lot of hoopla has been made about Musk and the Bureau of the Fiscal Service. But I’m not aware of anything that has been definitely illegal so far. (Unless he starts messing with legally mandated payments. BFS is basically just a fancy check printing house. All of the important fiscal decisions are supposed to be made in other government departments, offices, and Congressional appropriations.)
The only things I know about that are probably squarely illegal are the IG firings, and the EOs that are already in litigation. In the case of the IGs, I’m not sure if there any kind of substantial enforcement mechanism.
https://www.gao.gov/legal/appropriations-law/resources
The article literally lists their names, so I’d say they’re pretty well identified.
No, it does not. He has a “team” of this kids he’s using as Hitler Youth stand-ins that are not even identified by name.
3rd paragraph is their names
Yes, that is not the name of his team. The same unidentified people he had in the Treasury Payment system, and the same group he’s been touting since the election.
Your comments are confusing. Who are you referring to using the words “unidentified people”?
When I use https://archive.is/YAmss#selection-729.0-729.118 I see a list of names of engineers, which is surely a list of “The Young, Inexperienced Engineers Aiding Elon Musk’s Government Takeover”.
Well then you’re not doing the bare minimum:
https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/elon-musk-039-s-team-takes-over-gsa-pushes-for-big-changes-7609147
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/just-too-easy-to-hack-elon-musk-claims-voting-machines-rig-elections-calls-for-paper-ballots/articleshow/114387655.cms
https://theconcernedbird.substack.com/p/elon-musks-and-xs-role-in-2024-election
There are literally dozens of instances of these people bragging about this shit, and Musk referring to his “dark team”.
If you’re coming here and asserting they don’t exist, there’s the door you absolutely blind shill.
There are dozens of instances of him SPECIFICALLY referencing this “young team of upstarts” in helping with his Super PAC as well, and “looking into elections”.
If you’re too dumb to put this all together, he has a team of engineers he’s paying in crypto so he’s not tied to it or on the books that is subversive to out government, the law, elections, and by all accounts “norms”. He is not an elected official. He’s also bragged about using the same team in Germany RIGHT NOW.
Run away with your ignorance.
It’s time to take a break from your drug of choice, you are incoherent.
I think you’re confused.
You are saying they are unidentified.
They are telling you their names are listed in the article, they aren’t saying they don’t exist
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I don’t think “his “dark team”” doesn’t exist, because people that you are probably referring to are named the news article this discussion is based on.
Were you referring to “The Young, Inexperienced Engineers Aiding Elon Musk’s Government Takeover” using the words “unidentified people”?
I also haven’t found anywhere Elon Musk expressed having a “dark team” (though they might have expressed something similar using different words): https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ftsa&q=“dark+team”+musk&ia=web
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/musk-trump-prosecutor-identities-doge-staff-1235255556/