The issue is that he is supporting russian genocidal imperialism. His messaging clearly aligns with russian propaganda goals.
Is it not reasonable for me to consider him my enemy (he directly supports doing harm to me, my family and my fellow citizens)?
As far I am concerned, I hope Snowden and his family will one day be on the recieving end of russian brutality.
I don’t buy the logic of “he did one good thing, so it’s fine for him to promote russian genocidal imperialism”.
If he can’t stay consistent, he should have never got involved in the NSA issue in the first place.
He clearly enjoys the attention (just look at this post). He could have simply shut up and not worked with russian security services (the russians wouldn’t kill him, they need him alive).
Were you there? Were you privy to the circumstances? It could very well be the case that he was threatened. We don’t know, I just think it’s super sus that he started spewing pro-Russia nonsense only after his importance uncovering US govt documents was waning.
I think it’s highly likely he was pressured to make those statements.
What does me being or not being there have to do with anything?
He did have a choice to not support russian genocidal imperialism. He made a decision to support the russians even though they do terrible things (both in context of violent imperialism and spying on their own citizens).
The tone of his social media posts suggests that he rather enthusiastic about using his fame and social readership to promote an agenda. One that is explicitly aimed at harming those who oppose russian genocidal imperialism.
He did have a choice to not support russian genocidal imperialism
And I’m saying neither you or I know the consequences of making a different choice. Given what has happened to other public figures who oppose Russian interests (e.g. Navalny), I can’t take anything Snowden says without a grain of salt, because it’s impossible to know what’s genuinely his opinion and what Russia wants us to hear.
If pressured to guess, I’m going to assume that Russia has made it clear that saying anything against Russian interests won’t end well for him. I don’t see him as a credible source for much of anything anymore, since he’s certainly under Russia’s thumb.
What does me being or not being there have to do with anything?
So when others give their opinions (clearly identified as such) you demand evidence, but when you do the same you provide none? You’re either a troll or an idiot, which is kinda sad 'cos most of the english-speakers here were actually trying to be rational for a change.
KTHXBYE
The issue is that he is supporting russian genocidal imperialism. His messaging clearly aligns with russian propaganda goals.
Is it not reasonable for me to consider him my enemy (he directly supports doing harm to me, my family and my fellow citizens)?
As far I am concerned, I hope Snowden and his family will one day be on the recieving end of russian brutality.
I don’t buy the logic of “he did one good thing, so it’s fine for him to promote russian genocidal imperialism”.
If he can’t stay consistent, he should have never got involved in the NSA issue in the first place.
He clearly enjoys the attention (just look at this post). He could have simply shut up and not worked with russian security services (the russians wouldn’t kill him, they need him alive).
Well yeah, he’s in Russia. What’s he supposed to do?
He did one good thing. Now he’s in Russia, so ignore pretty much anything he days says that could in some way benefit Russia.
Why do they need him alive? Any information he has is a decade old at this point. He’s only useful to them alive while he has a platform.
No, he had a choice to keep quiet, but instead he chose to support russian genocidal imperialism. That makes him a bad person.
He is a PR win for russia, they are not going to harm him as that would undermine their interests.
Were you there? Were you privy to the circumstances? It could very well be the case that he was threatened. We don’t know, I just think it’s super sus that he started spewing pro-Russia nonsense only after his importance uncovering US govt documents was waning.
I think it’s highly likely he was pressured to make those statements.
What does me being or not being there have to do with anything?
He did have a choice to not support russian genocidal imperialism. He made a decision to support the russians even though they do terrible things (both in context of violent imperialism and spying on their own citizens).
The tone of his social media posts suggests that he rather enthusiastic about using his fame and social readership to promote an agenda. One that is explicitly aimed at harming those who oppose russian genocidal imperialism.
And I’m saying neither you or I know the consequences of making a different choice. Given what has happened to other public figures who oppose Russian interests (e.g. Navalny), I can’t take anything Snowden says without a grain of salt, because it’s impossible to know what’s genuinely his opinion and what Russia wants us to hear.
If pressured to guess, I’m going to assume that Russia has made it clear that saying anything against Russian interests won’t end well for him. I don’t see him as a credible source for much of anything anymore, since he’s certainly under Russia’s thumb.
So when others give their opinions (clearly identified as such) you demand evidence, but when you do the same you provide none? You’re either a troll or an idiot, which is kinda sad 'cos most of the english-speakers here were actually trying to be rational for a change.
KTHXBYE
Perfect example of the “Saint Snowden” syndrome. Denying reality to protect the innocence of your precious.
Russia killing him is probably the only thing worse than them having him in the eyes of the USA.
Only we get to persecute/prosecute our own, its a mindset most sovereign nations have fwiw.