The detestable decadence that is golf just needs to fucking die already
I like golf, get outside spend time in nature. Basically a big park with trees and water.
Let’s compare land use of car parks to solar or wind.
The elitist community of golf can fuck off though.
Let me have my beers and my hitting sticks
A park with very limited capacity and that almost always requires the destruction of the natural landscape.
Golf is elitist by nature as the courses require a ton of maintenance to keep them from going to there natural state, which costs money, and that cost is split among a small amount of people that can occupy the course at any given time without causing traffic. Combine that with the equipment costs and that filters out most lower income people.
If courses were turned into parks and left to nature far more people could enjoy them as they wouldn’t have to pay or worry about getting hit with a ball because they set there picnic up in the wrong meadow.
Sure but that’s a local issue, many communities have parks and golf courses… This article is arguing to remove golf courses in favor of solar or wind farms because they use a lot of space. It doesn’t even examine the impacts of putting a utility grade power farm in the middle of a community because the argument would breakdown immediately.
Close them down and solarise them.
Because unlike solar, the math for golf actually checks out
edit: Nvm did the math, solar produces more energy than I thought
Certainly more than golf.
Or just make it into a park. We’re not so desperate for space we need to build on what little urban greenery we have left…
Seattle is pretty desperate for housing. 40k new units, especially municipal owned one since this is a city golf course, would be a huge stride forward. Seattle also just passed a ballot measure for city to build low income/mixed income housing directly, so this would line up incredibly well for that.
There are talks to convert this into a beautiful park too, but the city government is not interested.
not the same thing but similar: Bromma airport in Stockholm is basically completely dead at this point, no one except the right wing parties want to keep it, so while they cope and seethe the rest of the government is talking about turning the airport into a new district much like what is shown here!
It really should be the obvious choice because it’s a super central area and there’s already a tramway going through it!
https://www.mp.se/sites/default/files/bromma_parkstad_-_rapport.pdf
40k on 160 acres is more density than any city that currently exists…
I stole the image from fuckcars so yeah. Its a no roads kinda deal.
True because cities have parks, roads, rivers, business, industrial or municipal areas that can’t or shouldn’t be used for housing. But there are neighborhoods almost as dense. Yorkville in NYC has more than 60.000 inhabitants per square kilometer. 160 acres is about 0.65 square kilometers.
Ouch. And how many of those are children?
It is even substantially higher than Manhattan (~27000 people/km²)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Manhattan
Is there an anti-golf comm?
These type of articles are ridiculous written by authors trying to create rage about a sport they don’t enjoy. Golf originated in the 15th century. Wind energy has existed alongside it for a very long time in the form of windmills. Solar farms are a modern day creation and no one wants a solar farm in the middle of their cities. It’s like saying NYC should get rid of Central Park because it doesn’t provide housing or energy. Ridiculous when you can apply grade school common sense, put the solar on the roofs!!! Wow! There is plenty of room in the world for all 3 to exist. We do not need to remove a past time that brings joy and community to many people around the world.
Or instead should I attack a different sport, let’s get rid of all the soccer fields they also can house wind and solar energy?! See ludicrous.
What are you even saying?
The average golf field is 150 acres. The average soccer field is 1.8 acres. You could fit over 83 soccer fields in a single soccer field.
And community soccer fields can be used for events, conferences, picnics, other sports such as frisbee, field hockey, etc. Golf courses are just a gigantic waste of space that ruin the surrounding ecosystem to cater to rich assholes.
Go to areas in Florida, Hawaii, or similar wetland areas where they’ve been drained to set up golf courses. The surrounding areas are all fucked because the golf course screwed the land and it all drains into the surrounding area. You don’t get the same with residential or business areas, because there is a lot more room in those to put small drainage areas instead of just screwing everyone for the golf course.
Yeah, take that golf course, do something else with it, and use 1/80th of that land for a multipurpose field. The entire community will be way better off.
I didn’t say you can’t get rid of golf courses but suggesting we should replace them with utility grade power is idiotic… we are on an energy topic here, not are there better uses for golf course spaces? I am also not saying there are golf courses that were built in bad places… You’re making up arguments/conflicts that I didn’t propose.
I merely said all 3 can coexist and the logic to attack someone else’s past time can easily be done. My community just voted for more soccer fields when I drive by the existing fields they are barely used outside of a couple hours for practice, occasional adult night leagues and weekends.
The other hilarious part, golf courses were shutting down and being sold all over the world until the pandemic. The pandemic unleashed an explosion of new golfers because it’s a sport that can be played safely with social distancing.
But ah yes let’s get rid of the golf courses, hockey rinks, soccer fields, tracks, football fields, rugby fields. We can build massive apartment buildings and solar farms instead. For some reason joy and sports that you find acceptable are the only ones humans can participate in because of your math equation! Lovely.
Good idea. Racecourses as well.
Lol how could I forget about Motorsports!
“Sport”
What are you on about? Everybody who isn’t an embarrassed-temporarily-broke-millionaire wants this
Gosh darn fuck I’m annoyed by how stupid your comment is.
Golf: 20 acres for 3 people
Soccer: 50 meters for 10+
How do you live being this fucking ignorant?
What city do you live in? I wanna see your people vote to put a freaking utility grade wind or solar farm in it. You’re a clown who thinks only rich people play golf. You know who else plays golf? Lots of seniors who can no longer play soccer, should I insult your inability to apply 2 seconds of thinking before responding. Hey genius we have something called power lines for a reason!
Are you okay?
I’m fantastic, I am avid player of soccer and golf and do not want a power utility in the middle of my city when it can easily exist outside the city and we can retain green spaces for people to enjoy. This post is on an energy page. The easy solution is for governments to subsidize all homes and buildings their own solar power and battery storage allow unused power to be sold back to the grid. You won’t see this happen because it would decimate the power industry which obviously has a massive lobby. Yet you believe we should sell our green spaces to utility companies? Idiotic. Meanwhile capitalists are funding things like crypto coin which uses insane amounts of power to create an unneeded digital commodity.
I’ll reiterate, this article is garbage on so many levels but it clearly has an incredibly gullible audience who can’t get out of their own way with a little bit of thinking.
Almost 50% of energy is lost in transmission. Keeping renewable energy closer is good.
How do you think power/energy is sent to your home?
Again I’m a full supporter of renewable energy, I just believe we are unfairly targeting golf when no one in their right mind wants a solar farm in the middle of their city.
I think you and I are for the same solutions, taking anger out on golf courses because they take up a lot of space is a bad argument when it comes to replacing them with utility grade power source. No one wants utility grade power sources where their community golf courses are. I’d argue I want more green space(not more golf courses) in my community. Each community is different and has different needs but getting rid of existing green spaces would be a last resort for me when it comes to replacing it with a utility grade power plant.
Again I’m a full supporter of renewable energy, I just believe we are unfairly targeting golf when no one in their right mind wants a solar farm in the middle of their city.
Pretty easy to win debates when you declare your opponents insane by nature of being your opponents.
I didn’t got though all the comments, so, Sorry, if this was already mentioned.
But there is research with at least working prototypes to use glass as solar panel.
Especially skyscrapers would be great here
Yeah that would be amazing!!
