Summary
Trump is pushing for softer language on Russia’s war in Ukraine, straining G7 unity.
Officials say the U.S. is blocking references to “Russian aggression” and prefers calling it the “Ukraine conflict.”
This shift follows Trump’s peace talks with Putin that excluded Ukraine’s President Zelensky, whom Trump later called a “dictator.”
The change in rhetoric contrasts with Biden-era support for Ukraine and threatens a unified G7 stance.
it increases the number of people that want to blow up america every day. i bet americans abroad will have a hard time getting food in foreign countries where the cook did not spit on it.
That’s why you have to travel with candian gear. Just velcro that on your bag.
They should kick him out when he shows up for that threat
I’d love to ask all of the MAGA heads to just question themselves this: Why go through all of this just to help Putin. Some fucked up shit must go on that Trump risks all of this just for Putin.
Same reason the US helps Israel?
The US helps Israel because they like the US more than the rest of the middle east and the US wants control of the middle east so Iran doesn’t control it as a proxy for Russia.
So the US supports Isreal to hurt Russian interests. And is now diverting all Ukraine funds to Isreal to waste the money.
Under Biden we were on track to steal Palestine as a reaction to Putin stealing parts of Ukraine.
Now that Putin has Ukraine he doesn’t care about distracting the US through Iran and is fine having his puppet Trump keep sending their tax dollars to Isreal.
But since Trump is giving up Ukraine it is more of a trade where the US trades control of Ukraine for control of Palestine.
Sorry but what the fuck are you talking about. You’re inventing connections between conflicts that aren’t there. Russia and the US don’t particularly care about Palestine. Believing that there’s some kind of exchange where the US is ‘taking’ Palestine because of the conflict in Ukraine is some of the dumbest shit I’ve ever heard. It’s like you think all of geopolitics is the US and Russia sitting around a map of the world and both of them are ten year olds.
joe biden himself said if isreal wouldnt exist, america would need to create a proxy there to control the region.
The US has already had control over Palestine through Israel for decades.
Weird that it’s still called Palestine then. Why would Isreal need to take their land if they already owned it?
The US-Israel alliance has been a disgusting and embarrassing debacle
According to Alnur Mussayev, 6th Directorate of the KGB in Moscow, Don was recruited by the KGB in 1987 and given the codename Krasnov.
Drop the USA and change the metting to the G6 + California until Jan 2029.
Blow it apart. America doesn’t belong with its former Allies.
Its clear that America has no interest in being apart of the free world, they checked out.
Now fuck off and go destroy yourselves in a frenzy over transgender bathroom doors and eggs. The rest of us still have lives to live and futures to protect.
So making peace with russia is destroying the free world, but letting Ukraine and russia have a forever war isn’t?
Of course letting a dictator invade and annex a democratic neighbour is a step in destroying the free world, you absolute muppet.
Piss off, twat.
Giving Russia everything they want and not negotiating with Ukraine is destroying the free world.
Wowzers, you are either a Russian Bot, or a fucking moron. Either way not worth even worth interacting with beyond this as you would be too thick to understand.
You would suck your abusive boyfriend’s dick with one black eye because you’d be stupid enough to believe him when tells you that if you do, he wouldn’t give you a second.
Yes, because appeasing an agressor only begats more aggression.
Ah so its that simple, got it.
Damn the bullies in your school had a field day with you, didn’t they? They can take your milk and you would offer them your lunch too. Because conflict is bad. Surprise, sometimes violence is actually the answer. Whether we like it or not.
Appeasement doesn’t work. We know that from WWII.
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Go touch some grass because you clearly lack the brain cells to participate in a qualified discussion of any kind.
What kind of dumb ass uninformed comment is this. We all want the war to end. But with freedom, not more oppression
Then European countries need to fight. Ukraine can’t win alone.
He was giving us the approved view from St. Petersburg.
Right?
Russia could end the war it started right now. And leave. It chooses not to.
It’s almost as if he works for Putin
Its almost as if he wants america out of a war as quickly as possible.
If America is at war via Ukraine then by the same logic it is committing genocide in Gaza.
SO YOU AGREE that Putin should leave the country they wrongfully invaded and pay for the rebuild to ensure peace.
That’s not how the world works. Might makes right.
You are correct that Ukraine cant do it itself. It is sickening that Nato happily took the Nordic country in super quick like but wont take Ukraine in because of the conflict that they knew was coming for YEARS
SO YOU AGREE that Putin and Russia need their fucking asses kicked back to the stone age and Russia broken up again.
Actually I’d argue the US and the EU have had their fair share of invasions and aggressions.
Regardless, if you want Ukraine to win, other countries must joint the war, Ukraine can’t win by itself.
Because appeasement worked so well in the past it’s bound to work again.
Its almost as if he wants america out of a war as quickly as possible.
That would mean Traitorapist Trump has gone completely insane since we aren’t in any war. And Trump’s New World Disorder is going to send nuclear proliferation thru the roof. Every country in the world will rightly want its own nuclear weapons thanks to Trump.
Which war is America in, currently?
Class war is the only real one.
Out of the goodness oft his heart?
Maybe he does.
Maybe Putin’s colleagues found out something interesting about Trump back in the days, and made him an offer he could not refuse - “go and become King of America, we’ll even help you a little, but you’ll serve us”.
Wild speculation, of course. But he definitely doesn’t have national interest burdening his mind in any way or manner.
P.S. If I worked in the Secret Service, I would use my telescope to watch birds fly and tree leaves wobble. Even if there was a remote weapons station turning towards my client, or a wire guided object coming in - I would hardly notice until impact.
Advocating for murder is… questionable at best.
Yet nobody objects to fantasies about time traveling to kill hitler.
I guess eradicating a current fuhrer is Too Soon for sympathizers. It they have something to gain from a shit stain being in control for a bit before it circles the bowl enough times to finally disappear.
it’s the pee tape
IT IS NOT.
NOBODY gives a fuck about a “pee tape”.
What’s the Pee Tape!? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steele_dossier#Kompromat_and_blackmail:_Trump
Agreed. Look, if someone released a tape of trump being peed on by a bunch of underage children, it would start a trend with trump supporters and everyone would be having pedo pee parties in support and solidarity. trump could literaly blow someones brains out in the oval office on live television and no one would fucking do anything. Putin is dangling a financial carrot over trump or one of trumps “investors” that has to do with money or power and that is the only reason. It’s pure unadulterated corruption being broadcast live on a streaming service near you. Simple as that.
The fuck is G7 anyway, but the face of global capitalism?
Just doublechecking my premises, there’s this from Investopedia:
The Group of Seven is an intergovernmental organization made up of the world’s largest developed economies: France, Germany, Italy, Japan, the United States, the United Kingdom, and Canada. Government leaders of these countries meet periodically to address international economic and monetary issues, with each member taking over the presidency on a rotating basis…
Yeah, fuck 'em, but all is forgiven if G7 has the balls to expel America.
G8 expelled Russia for the original Ukrainian invasion in 2014. If need be, I suppose they can become G6. Or honestly, in this day and age, there are many more nations whose opinions should be considered. G7 is pretty eurocentric and I say this as an European (though not a citizen of any of the 7)
The G6 should incorporate Ukraine, Taiwan, and Panama. Then extend a treaty of friendship to Blue States within America. America clearly has no (good) future, and the world will change because of it. Might as well make the most of it.
Replace the US with China
What? Hell no! The Orange KGB agent and Leon Hitler want the US to be like China.
Replace fascism with… checks notes again… fascism…
What?
Even better, South Korea
It was a thought I had too, but tbh I feel iffy about China.
If China’s willing to stop supporting Russia, I could see the west sans US starting closer ties with China. That alliance would be an economic powerhouse for sure.
China would have to do a whole lot more than just “not support russia”. As a starter, they’d need to start being transparent, honest, and not censor the ever loving shit out of all information from their country. Then they could stop genociding minorities.
The G8 already included Russia and the US, with Russia definitely being worse than China, even before the 2014 Ukraine invasion… And honestly, has the US ever been any better?
It’s an economic alliance more than anything.
I figure the best way to convince China to stop supporting Russia is to give them a better option. Europe is a bigger economy and more in line with many of China’s goals. Russia is chaotic and weak by comparison.
That’s definitely true, and the thought has crossed my mind before.
Anything an European company manages to sell in China is going to be a huge boost too. It’s the damn IP laws that are a pain to work with, though. A Chinese company perfectly clones your product? Well, you’re not going to win if you sue them.
China is as a bad faith actor if not worse than the US. And that’s saying something. Moreover, they are threatening another democracy (Taiwan) while being a dictatorship. What would be the EU stance in case of aggression? Ukraine being invaded is bad, but Taiwan is fine? That would be hypocrisy at it’s worst
That would piss them off so much lol
Got me feelin’ so fly, like a G6
Russia Loving Republicans. Trump is a Russian asset. Treat the US government like an enemy.
Kick us out, Trump is not in the G7 to do anything but fuck it up. Being a self interested stakeholder is normal but he’s not self interested. He is clearly under Putin’s influence.
Kick the US out. If our democracy survives Trump, you can always readmit us when we have a president who acts in good faith. Otherwise, this shit is only going to get worse…
Yeah, China’s not in even though it’s the second largest economy in the world. In the 90s it almost became G-8 to include Russia, but then Putin screwed that up.
It’s not all that different of a situation from Russia being kicked out because of Putin’s shenanigans, really.
Should try to get Brazil to leave BRICS and join the G-7 club. The US could go be in BRICS bullshit (or maybe then it’d be called the USRICS?) with the other authoritarian assholes of the world.
or maybe then it’d be called the USRICS?
SIRCUS
Unfortunately it’s likely going to take more than just electing a nice guy for USA to earn its status as a trustworthy ally back. When the country can just go rogue every four years, making threats and backing out of agreements — and half of the country is so nationalist that they applaud it — you can’t really establish a level of trust.
I wish you were wrong.
I guess I can pray for balkanization and that our further allies take pity on whatever Blue City State I end up being a member of.
Precisely this. Once this trust has been lost and the ‘G6’ face a world where they cannot count on the US, geopolicies will change and the US will not be perceived trustworthy anytime soon. As it stands, it will be considered yet another global power with anti-democratic tendencies, policies that endanger world piece and disrupt the common pursuit for prosperity and is considered best kept in check.
By allowing our politicians a seat at the table you’re opening yourself up to more harm.
Isolate us, make the voting public feel the consequences of their actions. Respond to tariffs with tariffs on red states. Sanction administration official of the inevitable human rights abuses that are coming. Call out the lies of our Government openly and with evidence.
This isn’t going to change if there are never any consequences for the people who’re doing this as well as their supporters. Revoke the visas of our oligarchs, limit their travel, stop doing business with their companies. Create incentives for educated Americans to immigrate to healthier democracies and ban our social media companies before they finish poisoning your country as well.
I am hoping that if the American dollar hyperinflates, Europe will blacklist billionaires and Muskcoin, instead only offering Euros for assets among non-billionaires. That will keep Europe insulated, and maybe allowing it to take a chunk of Red American flesh. They could also allow Blue States to swap dollars for Euros at a favorable rate for them, to rig the restructuring of America in the favor of non-fascists.
The Euro could become the Dollar of the future.
We don’t want educated Americans emmigrating elsewhere. We want you to fix your shit and educated Americans are the only ones that can do that.
If you leave, the idiots are left in charge of some of the spiciest military hardware and without smart people, will probably end up using it.
The voting public seem to be pretty susceptible to whatever spin the Orange House puts on the consequences of their actions.
Do you really believe they’ll see through what Trump does and blame themselves before blaming Canada, for example?
I’m a US citizen. Please kick us out. The more countries that take concrete action against us that actually hurt us the more likely congress and the voters are to stand up to Trump.
If you think any fact will affect the American public, you are much more optimistic than me.
Republicans will blame Soros, o Pelosi, or AOC and trump will have even more support.
That’s assuming they even pay attention to anything international other than Ukraine or Israel (many don’t).
Agreed. We earned this. I hope we gain the world’s trust again, but it’ll most likely never be like it was…
The problem with the latter two is that Australia will never go against the US in its current state. The people might not approve of it but they are reliant on the US to a greater extent than NATO is.
I love it when you talk dirty
…and daughter for a good night yes?
…OK but only the tip and only for a minute…Melania! Get over here!
…no Mr Trump, I mean daughter. The pretty one.
… Okay fine, I’ll pull some strings. Probably dome G-strings. Okay, and you get us germanium?
… Yes Mr. Trump you may keep Germany
…No Mr Putin, you miss understood. We wa…
… You’ll get Germany yes. I’m sorry I have to go now. I make love to your daughter and then return. I’ll return next month. Bye!
G7/G6/G8.
Who cares it’s a eurocentric club anyway.
G20 is the real global conference.
