Summary
Pope Francis criticized Donald Trump’s mass deportation plans, calling them “a disgrace” that unfairly punish vulnerable individuals.
Speaking on an Italian talk show, Francis argued such measures fail to solve underlying issues and conflict with principles of justice and inclusion.
He also congratulated Trump on his inauguration, urging him to promote a just society free of hatred and exclusion.
U.S. Catholic leaders echoed the pope’s concerns, citing Catholic teachings on protecting human dignity and welcoming migrants, despite national security challenges.
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Rocks and glass houses. The Pope’s words on the matter is pointless based on the policies of the sovereign land he controls.
If you manage to be born in the Vatican City, you don’t get citizenship(citizenship of Vatican City is granted on jus officii, so you need to be appointed at the Vatican to have citizenship). And will be deported. This leaves you stateless which is a massive problem, such a massive problem, that the Italian government negotiated the problem away in the Lateran Treaty.
I don’t get it, unrestricted Jus soli is only really common in the new world. The Vatican doesn’t seem out of the ordinary regarding this.
Right… That’s the point. They (the Holy See, and thus Vatican City)… Being squarely set in restrictions… is complaining when a country with MUCH LESS restrictions on citizenship acts…
If the Vatican Cities rules were applied to the USA today. It would be a literal shit show, and significantly worse.
That’s my point. He has no room to talk. He’s blowing hot air up everyone’s asses to make himself look better when he is significantly worse. The “old world” is de facto more restrictive, and Vatican City is significantly worse than that.
If you were born on the Google campus, would you expect them to give you citizenship? A job?
…Vatican City is not a state like any other, it’s a pet protectorate of Italy. Don’t compare a tiny speck of land with one of the biggest countries in the world, a country whose economy is reliant on the immigrants it wants to expel now. All that does is create a situation where employers can extort workers by saying “what’s the phone number of ICE, again”?
It’s also a country which can only be accesses by passing through Italy first.
It’s such a bad argument to compare immigration policies like this (I.e., I agree with you).
However, we could look at the amount of homeless people left around st. Peter’s. Those could be helped even without immigration, and it’s not done.
How? By housing them in the vatican museum? The vatican is smaller than an averege American Walmart. It’s already crowded, housing the most important nursery home in the catholic world, while also taking in millions of tourist every year. There is no space in the Vatican.
By providing resources to house them? I am from Rome, I know how big (small) the Vatican is. I also know that the church owns an impressive amount of estate in Rome and Italy in general. Whatever the solution could be, from boosting Caritas (the association who already has canteens for poor people), to funding low-cost housing, to whatever else can be imagined, it’s a stark contrast walking such a luxurious place, the core of the Catholic church and seeing people sleeping in the open in winter on the ground.
Obviously I am not naive, I know that poverty for the church is something to mitigate perhaps, but never to solve.
The church providing public housing where things like men kissing men could happen… not going to happen. It’s nothing or a monastery. Also doesn’t Italy have a right to housing.