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  • Do you have access to Signal servers to verify your claims by any chance?

    That’s not how it works. The signal protocol is designed in a way that the server can’t have access to your message contents if the client encrypts them properly. You’re supposed to assume the server might be compromised at any time. The parts you actually need to verify for safe communication are:

    • the code running on your device
    • the public key of your intended recipient

  • Comparing pregnant women who drink to men in prison as equally violent individuals?

    Straight up adding pregnant women who smoke to pregnant women who drink alcohol to women who get late stage abortions with no concern that an individual might belong to more than one group?

    Removing fathers who drank before conception from the equation entirely with the justification that an article called it less harmful, but clearly not harmless, which is the opposite of what he did when he put number of drinkers and convicted criminals in the same equation.

    Go there & argue with guy if you are capable of showing a more accurate math

    I’m not going to argue with that dipshit because it’s total waste of time. And so is arguing with you. I only commented for the benefit of other users who might scroll by without noticing the absolutely ridiculous evidence you cited, and get trapped into taking your position at face value.






  • Are you contradicting yourself later by conceding (flawed as it may be) it fit “a very minimal definition of democracy”?

    What part are you referring to? This?

    So if you mean democracy in a very literal and minimal sense, that the people have some sort of power through their vote, that’s technically still going on.

    Cause that not the same context. One is responding to the “100-years tradition of upkeeping democracy against major non-democratic players” claim and the other is talking about the USA political system as it exists right now. These are not just referring to different periods; but the former is not even asking whether democracy exists in the USA. It’s asking whether the US has a long tradition of fighting for democracy against its major enemies. That’s why I didn’t just mention just the lack of voting rights for minorities, but also stuff like violently interfering in other countries’ politics. The sentences seem inconsistent to you because you took out every bit of context.

    Do good, objective definitions vary by time & culture? Seems problematic.

    Yes they do vary. One could argue objective definitions don’t exist in the first place. It’s not problematic, it’s a good thing. If definitions didn’t vary by time, black people would still be slaves and women would not have the right to vote. It is our changing definition of who “the people” of a country are that changed the rights afforded to those people. And the fact that even the most fundamental words of the most minimal definition are not objective and unchanging is why you cannot come up with a single universally accepted definition. I mean, if you think you have one, why don’t you share it?



  • You’d think a hegemony with a 100-years tradition of upkeeping democracy against major non-democratic players, would have some mechanism that would prevent itself from throwing down it’s key ideology.

    “100-years tradition of upkeeping democracy”? That’s not even true in a very minimal definition of democracy, let alone if we also mean equal rights for all. Just off the top of my head:

    The vote of racial minorities was not protected before 1965.

    COINTELPRO was a thing just over 50 years ago, targeting whatever political group was considered undesirable by the FBI. The FBI was found to be using unlawful surveillance targeting protesters for the inexcusable killing of a black man by police as recently as five years ago.

    Last election there was an attempt to overturn the election results. It’s not taken as seriously as it should have because it failed, but it was literally an attempt to overthrow democracy. It’s important to note that Trump was allowed to run for president and the case against him was dropped as soon as he got elected. I’m pointing it out because the system was already there to protect him and it’s not something that he caused through his own actions as president.

    There are so many unwarranted invasions of other countries, assassinations, and human rights violations that I don’t even know where to link to as a starting point.

    Don’t forget the large scale surveillance both within and without the country.

    And then there’s all the undemocratic qualities of unregulated free market capitalism. Politicians are lobbied. News outlets belong to wealthy individuals who often have other businesses as well. Social media too. Technically, you get to cast a vote that is equal to everybody else’s. But your decision is based on false data, and your representative is massively incentivized to lie to you and enact policies that server their lobbyists and wealthy friends instead. Do we all really have equal power?

    So if you mean democracy in a very literal and minimal sense, that the people have some sort of power through their vote, that’s technically still going on. If you mean in it a more general sense, where people have fundamental rights that are always protected regardless of race or other characteristics, and where power is not unfairly distributed between individuals and racial groups, then again not much has changed. Because that was never the case. If you think fascism was universally condemned then you just hadn’t realized how widespread and normalized it always was. Maybe fascism is growing. Maybe it’s becoming more blatant. But it was always there.