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  • RCTs measuring CVD biomarkers also pretty consistently show that reducing meat consumption, especially red meat, decreases well-established CVD biomarkers, so, if these results combined don’t convince you, what results would convince you?

    May I see these RCTs please? What do you consider a CVD biomarker? Not LDL hopefully. CAC scores, insulin resistance, or all cause mortality please.

    then it’s pretty clear that eating ASF in large amounts is suboptimal.

    I do not agree with this, a abundance of weak observational studies do not make causation. But the point of this discussion isn’t to get us to agree, just to indicate that people well versed in the literature and looking at the evidence strength would not agree that the evidence is overwhelming… which is to say there has not been a casual link established.



  • 1,2 totally agreed

    when applied to argue against the efficacy of plant-based diets

    I’m not making that claim

    If what we care about is empirical health outcomes, we should look at health outcomes data rather than trying to replicate what our ancestors did in situations that were vastly different to the ones that we find ourselves in now.

    100%

    shows increased risk of heart disease and cancer with increased red meat and processed meat consumption.

    https://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/skeptical-doctors#cancer

    The science against meat is inconclusive

    Personally I don’t have a opinion about what a adult should eat. Every person is navigating their own journey through health and life and needs to find what works for them. I only take issue with trying to limit people’s options on none causal observational data.










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