Can I step down from my life for the same reason?

Depending on the group, some may be excited to help the warlock or at least not mind them having to do patron favors, but it can be unfun for some because the monk isn’t getting the same opportunities/obstacles for their abilities. Just depends on what works for the table IME.

That’s fair and very true on the table. However… now I’m trying to think of ways to apply that to monks and other classes as well. Maybe similar to oathbreaking in a way. Your ki doesn’t line up anymore as you’re starting to drift from your original goals and you’ve got to realign with behavior or find a new path to walk?

Me too. My trans roommie got a giggle out of it.

RAW, perhaps, but it’s never made sense to me (as a DM) that you are given a contract by a warlock that you can break with no repurcussions.

You’re saying this of the trilogy that was made by 2 directors actively trying to undo what the other did, interesting

George Lucas couldn’t even agree on his own direction for the Prequels, so you can stuff this whole idea that he had some genius masterplan. None of the trilogies were done perfectly.

I’m not a star wars fan but I am familiar with the movies and the making of them all (film school nerd) so to see someone claim something like that is wild

Right. You’re not a Star Wars fan but you’re in the Star Wars meme community arguing the differences between a set of trilogies. But you’re not a fan.

Moreover, you being at film doesn’t really mean much. Want proof of that? The countless directors who’ve never been and won awards, and the countless directors who have been and have failed miserably.

Then there is your arrogance which is to inject that into a post. There’s no purpose except for you to say “I go to film school therefore my opinion is worth more than yours on this.”

Honestly the comments of yours read like someone with very little media literacy who likes the ST.

Claims you’re not “Not a Star Wars fan.”

Acts exactly like a toxic Star Wars fan.

Literally incapable of arguing the point at hand and has to resort to personal insults.

For someone who is a film nerd and goes to film school, it’s kind of remarkable how you have no ability to focus on the film. Your entire comment was belittling another series and then belittling me. You never argued any point I made because you have no argument against it that isn’t based off of your own emotional reaction.

Star Wars was made for children but you are really pushing the frontier on what can be called a child.

If you want to cry and throw shit because you’re too immature to have a conversation, by all means. But you can do it while failing at film school that you supposedly go to. I am not entertaining your ego any longer.

Yes. I could sit alone in isolation and never try to find other people talk with or share things I find exciting, being completely alone.

That is technically an option.

What a bizarrely obtuse and frankly assholish response. Basically boils down to “Either be alone or deal with the toxicity”.

I’m gonna pass on wasting my time on anymore of this nonsensical bullshit. Thanks.

the physical experience of watching the films is too uncomfortable for me to even think about that stuff.

Nah. It really isn’t lol

I mean mathematically that doesn’t even work because the latter group was formed by the former.

Sure but do you not agree there is major gap in quality and substance?

Oh I completely agree that there was, but not when you’re suggesting. It was between the Original Trilogy and the Prequel Trilogy, the most critically hated series of Star Wars movies until… the Sequels. And 90% of the complaints I hear about the Sequels are emotionally based with nothing that people can physically point to. The other 10% have valid criticisms but most people don’t voice them. They just whine.

At worst the Sequels fall between PT and OT in terms of quality. At the bare minimum, it was a step up from the confused mishmash of the Prequels.

Until the end where he became too sad to live or whatever and died (seems to run in the family).

The movie openly explained why he died. Like multiple times.

I swear that a good chunk of people who just complain about the Sequel trilogy have zero comprehension skills.

The fuck it is. Especially when you have to engage with a fan community that is so rabidly hateful about it. I’ve got experience on that in multiple fandoms.

Really? Your problem with the sequels is the editing and nothing else?

That’s a first.

Moreover, your complaint isn’t about the sequels. Your complaint is about the evolution of movie making. The original trilogy had those long takes because cinema was still fairly early and evolving. That’s why the editing also jumped between OT and PT.

My point is that the Death Star was annihilated almost instantly after posing its first real threat to any rebellion and heading to the next and Death Star 2 didn’t do shit. Starkiller Base achieved its goal. It destroyed every planet that was a seat of power and in opposition to them. Was taken offline very quickly so no follow up operations, like the Death Star, but in its first strike had already achieved more than any Death Star before. As we saw in The Last Jedi and in Rise of Skywalker, the Resistance was on the ropes and the First Order, in a single strike, managed to retake control of the galaxy at large.

Because it’s something different.

Every single Star Wars movie is basically the same thing over and over. Same cuts, same sequences, same energy, same everything. The Last Jedi shook it up and honestly I think that it was a good idea because the material was shaken too.

In the Prequels you had the story of the Jedi v the Sith but both were very confident. Both were established.

In the Original Trilogy you’ve got Kenobi and Yoda with a guiding hand helping to smooth things out and ease the path.

The Force Awakens shows the Resistance on about the same level as the Rebels in the OT in how they’re managed and their goals. But then suddenly they’re obliterated. While everyone keeps saying that Starkiller Base is just another Death Star, they neglect to point out that this one worked. It wasn’t destroyed last second to help save other planets. It let off its first offensive, burning a number of planets from the void and into nothingness. This wasn’t the Rebellion pushing to save their lives. This was a Resistance who now had just lost everything in the blink of an eye. All of their governmental backing, all of the support they had from elsewhere. Suddenly the First Order had just leapfrogged over them and they were in a scramble.

So they pull out and try to regroup. They evacuate their base and everyone gets ready to leave but suddenly First Order ships are nearly in orbit and they’re about to start shooting you from the sky. You have to run, now, but tensions are high and everyone is on a hairtrigger. Thinking in a moment of high panic (again, he’s never been in a situation like the Original Trilogy or Prequels), Poe makes a gut decision to help protect his people. His decision leaves his people heavily defenseless and even more of the Resistance is killed. So they start running. They pull back and flee and when they breathe a single sigh of relief, they’re right back on them. They no longer have the safety of running away and they’re strapped for resources. Then in that moment when you’re trying to figure out what the fuck is going on, your flagship is attacked and your Commander in Chief has been taken out of the fight.

Now, I can go into how Poes decisions make sense for his character and how him mutinying against Holdo made sense for him but was objectively the bad call, how Holdo was actually doing the best she had and everything else but that’s not my point. My point is that everyone is in disarray and there is no one around from the typical Star Wars era to help them.

But then you cut to Rey and Luke on an island and the wipes are Star Wars-y. The vibe Star Wars-y. Everything felt more in line with what we see from typical editing and what have you because Luke is there. He’s been through the shit. He knows how to go through this. He’s been helped and guided and is now doing the same for Rey.

Which is why when Luke and Rey suddenly shows up on Crait to help, everything starts falling back into those Star Wars patterns. The music swells in the same way, the cuts start looking Star Wars-y, the long lingering shots… The camera is telling the story of the energy of the movie and the panic of the Resistance. The more confident and assured they become, the more “Star Wars-y” things become.

I think that a lot of people do believe that Rian Johnson just made a different movie for the sake of making a different movie. But this dude made Knives Out. He knows how to make a movie and knows how to tell a story through direction, how to move that on. I think a lot of people were just really upset with how things were turning out for how they wished it and didn’t see a lot of what Rian was doing.

Edit: Good ol’ Star Wars fandom. Someone answers a question and poses a different viewpoint? Nah. Just downvote, scream and run in the opposition direction because you’re too weak to be able to handle anything different than your own hate.

It is kind of insane how many Star Wars fans would be rejected en masse by the Jedi and the Sith for being too emotional.

Agreed. People will go insanely critical on the Sequels and Rey/Kylo but then just make jokes and dismiss Luke and Leia. But sure. The original trilogy was super planned out. That’s why the lightsaber combat suddenly changed between episodes and why Lucas ended up re-editing the originals a dozen times to piss everyone off.

… Oh come on. You have got to be joking.