Summary
A senior White House team, led by Steve Witkoff and Mike Waltz, is traveling to Saudi Arabia to set up Ukraine peace talks, excluding both Ukraine and Europe from negotiations.
This move raises concerns about sidelining key stakeholders while favoring direct U.S.-Russia discussions. European leaders, including Macron and Starmer, are meeting in Paris to respond.
Trump’s team has hinted at lifting Russian sanctions, a stance welcomed by the Kremlin.
NATO allies are wary of U.S. inquiries on security guarantees for Ukraine, fearing strategic leaks.
EU active duty as of 2020 was 1.9 million troops.
I don’t agree with that number.
EU Combat Troop Numbers The European Union has established EU Battlegroups, which consist of battalion-sized forces reinforced with combat support elements, typically comprising 1,500 troops each. As of 2023, eighteen battlegroups were operational, with two being ready for deployment at any given time. Additionally, a permanent European Union Rapid Deployment Capacity (EU RDC) consisting of up to 5,000 troops (the size of a brigade) is to be operational by 2025. These forces are under the direct control of the Council of the European Union. 🌐 en.wikipedia.org Defence forces of the European Union - Wikipedia 🌐 en.wikipedia.org EU Battlegroup - Wikipedia 🌐 boell.de The never-ending debate of the European Army and why it is unhelpful | Heinrich Böll Stiftung 🌐 en.wikipedia.org United States military deployments - Wikipedia 🌐 en.wikipedia.org European army - Wikipedia 🌐 eeas.europa.eu EU Battlegroups |
OK, do you math at any one time 2 battlegroups are ready to go, that’s 27,000 and not all combat troops. LOL
The data doesn’t care whether you agree or not.
Maybe you should read that article you linked completely. EU battle groups are multinational rapid response forces, and merely a subset of troops the EU can muster. Germany alone has 180k active service personnel.
LOL I said that. Active troops are what counts. It takes a long time to train troops to be battle ready. And Europe is going to hastily learn this. America isn’t going to save your arses, until you all give some blood up and have troops coming home injured and dead. It’s time that Europe remembers what war is, too many generations in between have forgotten.
The EU Battlegroups are not the combined militaries of the member states. They are a specific group that works directly under the EU. The vast majority of the militaries of the EU member states are not in EU Battlegroups.
Did you not actually link of of your sources because you were concerned someone might actually read them?
That’s correct, and they’re the active brigades available. I’m a soldier, it takes months to have troops ready for combat, at a minimum 6 months of training. Just because one has a relatively large military means squat. What counts is how many can go to war immediately.
Why do you equate “not in an EU Battlegroup” to “not able to go to war immediately”? Every EU member retains independent control of their militaries. They do not need to use the EU Battlegroup command structure. In fact they never have, and yet they have still regularly deployed troops.
Because I’m a soldier. Europe doesn’t have many combat troops ready to go to war. They’ve relied on America to protect them. And because of DEI, these troops won’t be much of a fighting force when they meet the Russian meat grinder. DEI has no place in the military. They’re supposed to be warriors!
You couldn’t fight your way out of the diaper you’re wearing.
Who is paying you to spew this? Russia is struggling to beat up their little brother, and you seem to think they’re a badass military machine.