• Meldrik@lemmy.wtf
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    21 hours ago

    Depends on what entails privacy. What you describe could also be pointed out as transparency. Transparency is a good thing, right?

    There’s no tracking or data-mining on Lemmy, which infringe on your privacy.

    On Lemmy there’s only what you yourself willingly share with the rest of us.

    Privacy and anonymity is not the same thing.

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      20 hours ago

      There’s no tracking or data-mining on Lemmy, which infringe on your privacy.

      Not built into the Lemmy software, no. But there’s for sure data mining and tracking happening, with how open the fediverse is. If you actually think there is none of that, you don’t seem to understand how the fediverse actually works. Anyone can just hook up their server to the fediverse and start harvesting your data freely if they want to.

      On Lemmy there’s only what you yourself willingly share with the rest of us.

      That’s more about discipline and applies to every social media. There’s no way to say “I don’t want to share this” on the fediverse. Even private messages are shared.

      What you describe could also be pointed out as transparency. Transparency is a good thing, right?

      Well, Lemmy isn’t the one being transparent then though. Since Lemmy hides votes from its users, but shares them with other instances.

      • Meldrik@lemmy.wtf
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        19 hours ago

        When you register on Reddit, you consent to being tracked. Possibly across the web via cookies. This is not the case with Lemmy.

        Otherwise it’s illegal. At least in the EU. You must get a users consent if you want to track them.

        Of course someone could collect data on your up/down votes and what you write, but it’s technically illegal to use the data.

        Tracking mostly happens with cookies, which is not present in Lemmy.

        “There’s no way to say I don’t want to share this”… Yes there is. Don’t hit the upvote button, if you don’t want anyone to know.

        Votes are public. They are just not exposed to everyone by default. Only admins on Lemmy. But go to Mbin and votes are public.

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          19 hours ago

          “There’s no way to say I don’t want to share this”… Yes there is. Don’t hit the upvote button, if you don’t want anyone to know.

          Well yes, that’s what I meant with the part before that.

          That’s more about discipline and applies to every social media. There’s no way to say “I don’t want to share this” on the fediverse. Even private messages are shared.

          This isn’t unique to Lemmy, every social media including Reddit allows you to prevent sharing something by never posting it in the first place.

          I’m saying beyond that there’s nothing more you can do. So Lemmy literally doesn’t do anything more there than Reddit did.

          For context, this was in response to this part of your comment (emphasis mine):

          On Lemmy there’s only what you yourself willingly share with the rest of us.

          Which sounds like you’re saying Lemmy is somehow different and better than Reddit at this, which it really isn’t.

      • Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.comOP
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        20 hours ago

        I’m okay with people knowing I upvote stuff on [email protected]

        I’m not okay with Reddit forcing me to use their app to do data mining directly on my phone, and not allowing me to use a VPN (Lemmy.world has the same issue to be honest)

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        19 hours ago

        Since Lemmy hides votes from its users, but shares them with other instances.

        That’s one thing I loved when I was on kbin. You could always see upvotes and downvotes.