Since Trump, I’m finding the Lemmy.world experience to be increasingly akin to an echo chamber and it’s quite frankly starting to bore me. (Inb4, I’m a left winger and I don’t like Trump, but I’m much more interested in a good spirited debate or novel points of view than I am in Orange man bad Nazi circle jerks)
If I wanted the same repetitive comments to be upvoted and any different opinion at all to be downvoted and even blocked/banned, I’d have just stayed on Reddit.
Are there any instances where different, opposing and novel points of view are celebrated and debated rather than simply derided and downvoted?
So, what you’re actually saying you’d rather live under capitalism because it’s not impacting your freedom, and you don’t care about others. Meanwhile, claiming that western Germany was economically stronger than the USSR is another example of you being divorced from reality. It’s the same sort of logic people applied to modern Russia comparing its GDP to Italy. Now, it turns out Russian industrial production is higher than all of the west combined. This is how capitalism rots people brains, they start thinking imaginary numbers are more important than material reality.
> So, what you’re actually saying you’d rather live under capitalism because it’s not impacting your freedom
that’s wrong, I belive that I have more freedom in (unregulated) capitalism that’s not state backed, than in a one party system without democratic principles
> and you don’t care about others.
that’s not true, I want others to be as free as I am
> Meanwhile, claiming that western Germany was economically stronger than the USSR is another example of you being divorced from reality.
you’re literally making this up, I sayed that western germany was ALMOST as economicaly strong as the entire ussr, which is true
> It’s the same sort of logic people applied to modern Russia comparing its GDP to Italy. Now, it turns out Russian industrial production is higher than all of the west combined.
first source I found: https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/Russia/United-States/Industry
this says something completely different
> This is how capitalism rots people brains, they start thinking imaginary numbers are more important than material reality.
so at first: you were wrong, but you also were double wrong, because even if russia did produce more than the US there’s still the question of what to be made and for whom, russia probably produces more war assets rn, and that isn’t necessarily a good thing, since they now can produce less of stuff the people actually need (that statement itself wouldn’t be true if the russian economy was growing and they were exporting their war assets, but the opposite is the case, they produce the war assets to burn them on the battlefield and their economy also isn’t looking good)
All capitalism is state backed, by definition.
uhm nope it isn’t, in fact a lot of economists are against the state (eg: ludwig van mises)
also everything is bad when state backed imo, even communism
or as I tend to say:“I like my communism the same way I like my toilet: without the state watching over it”
I don’t think using the guy who thought economic planning was impossible because there’s no way an individual person can plan an entire economy by themselves is a good representation of a valid viewpoint. Like, Mises had a comedically awful conception of Socialist economics from square one.
As for Communism, the State can only be abolished fully when class antagonisms are abolished, and such a status can only occur when everyone across the globe equally owns all property across the globe (or as close to that as is possible). Until then, however, there will be classes, and thus a state, so you can’t just get rid of the state outright unless you wish to return to hunter-gatherer style economics, or if you are okay with classes in your conception of Communism by turning everyone into petite bourgeoisie, equal owners but within their own communes exclusively.
Yet, you do not believe in effective ways of organizing and actually challenging the system. So, really you believe in perpetuating the system while paying lip service to the idea of change.
You clearly don’t since you reject practical methods that have been proven that free people from capitalism.
It’s not true, and never has been true in any meaningful sense.
and yet https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/10/politics/russia-artillery-shell-production-us-europe-ukraine/index.html
Meanwhile in the real world, Russian economy is booming, and the World Bank just reclassified Russia as a high income country https://blogs.worldbank.org/en/opendata/world-bank-country-classifications-by-income-level-for-2024-2025
The IMF forecasts that Russian economy is set to grow faster than all the western economies https://www.cnbc.com/2024/04/17/russia-forecast-to-grow-faster-than-advanced-economies-in-2024-imf.html
Thanks for providing further evidence of you being utterly divorced from reality.