• ZeroCool@slrpnk.net
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      Yep, that’s how it goes with the anti-vaxx movement.

      Gen 0 - lived with the reality that multiple people they knew died because of viruses and lined up to get vaxxed when they became available. Then went on to get their kids vaxxed because human ingenuity found a way to curb suffering.

      Gen 1 - grow up and got their kids vaxxed because, while they might not have seen it first hand, they remember stories from their parents and were horrified. “Thank god we’re found a way to stop it!”

      Gen 2 - get their kids vaxxed because they aren’t stupid, and it’s just become a routine part of raising a child.

      Gen 3 - have the luxury of being so far removed from the horrific impact of these preventable virus’ that they decide vaccines should be optional because… “Don’t tell me what to do, science nerds”

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        Yep. But there’s also a cross section of ages spewing propaganda. I mean, RFK Jr is ancient. He should remember the time of bloodletting yet here we are.

        And the misinformation campaign is oppressive. When my first born was at his 6 month (?) pediatrician appointment, the doctor started in on, “I’m required to inform you that vaccination is a personal and religious choice …” I cut him off and said, “I believe in science” and I could see the immediate relief on his face. I don’t know what he didn’t have to say, but it surely wasn’t good.

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          I cut him off and said, “I believe in science” and I could see the immediate relief on his face.

          I find it so fucking weird that it’s not the default position, but…I’m almost sure it’s not. Personally, I like to say science requires no belief, but merely accepting the evidence [1]…but the shorthand is usually easier.

          Anyway, imagine going to a mechanic, and they give you some spiel about how “I’m required to inform you that oil changes are a matter of personal and religious choice…” 🤯

          [1] This is only because some brainiacs like to pretend as if science and religion are just two sides of the same coin and both require belief. It’s really a way that they are telling on themselves and basically admitting they know nothing about basic principles of science…but you hear it all the time.

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            Personally, I like to say science requires no belief, but merely accepting the evidence

            Oh good, I’m not the only one. Cheers, Chuck!

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        have the luxury of being so far removed from the horrific impact of these preventable virus’ that they decide vaccines should be optional because… “Don’t tell me what to do, science nerds”

        I remember some science-based podcasts talking how many vaccines are victims of their own success (this was the mid-00s when some of the Andrew Wakefield bullshit started getting visible traction with morons). Sure, a small percentage of people, if herd immunity remains high enough because everyone ELSE does the right thing, can opt out of vaccines and see no harm. If that number drops below a certain percentage, though, watch the fuck out, because people are going to get hurt and/or die.

        Another place we can see this right now is the way people treat government - it’s essentially invisible when it’s working properly, hence it’s easy to claim it doesn’t do anything for you…

        I see idiotic companies treat infrastructure like IT the same way - the money people start asking why they are paying for staff they don’t hear from, start trying to make cuts. And things might be okay…for a while. Until things aren’t. Often, the seagull managers that made such brilliant decisions have skated on out of there. If something catches fire before then, they are easily in a position where they can deflect blame onto others.