I still disagree, and here’s why. I’ve ridden an electric bike share bike with no battery up a hill, with no extra load, and it was undoable. You couldn’t stay on the bike. It was more sensible to return the way I came than to keep going. Yes better gearing would have helped, but why was it necessary? Because the battery ran out. Why did it run out? Because capacity is limited by weight.
300 miles is way too much for most people to ever come close to in an ev unless they’re commuting 100 miles daily. Those people can get an extended range car or something. Whereas the battery capacity of ebikes and scooters is often met or exceeded especially with bike share. And then the bike is unrideable. Same with electric “push” scooters - they become unrideable when they run out.
People have range anxiety and I don’t fault people who want to be able to do long trips someday with their personal vehicle, but to me, it’s way more important to have better vehicles I’ll actually use daily.
If it was the difference between 150 miles and 200 that would be a different value judgement because then it does start to affect the car’s ability to function as a car in winter temperatures and normal distances.
Hello, I’d like your worst frame with the cheapest motor, smallest wheels, wrong kind of tires, a sprocket with a non whole number of teeth and uhhhhh lemmie get two years of no maintenance other than a hose off and some touch up paint.
Honestly I think you’re right. A person making the choice about what to own free from any other constraints would be thinking like you. I think Chinas right to push people towards using lead acid on e-bikes in the face of lithium scarcity and trade restrictions too.
It’s just two different situations that indicate different choices.
Apropos of nothing, are you seeing usbc e-bike battery charging coming down the pike? I was seeing some rumblings a few years ago last time I built one.
I still disagree, and here’s why. I’ve ridden an electric bike share bike with no battery up a hill, with no extra load, and it was undoable. You couldn’t stay on the bike. It was more sensible to return the way I came than to keep going. Yes better gearing would have helped, but why was it necessary? Because the battery ran out. Why did it run out? Because capacity is limited by weight.
300 miles is way too much for most people to ever come close to in an ev unless they’re commuting 100 miles daily. Those people can get an extended range car or something. Whereas the battery capacity of ebikes and scooters is often met or exceeded especially with bike share. And then the bike is unrideable. Same with electric “push” scooters - they become unrideable when they run out.
People have range anxiety and I don’t fault people who want to be able to do long trips someday with their personal vehicle, but to me, it’s way more important to have better vehicles I’ll actually use daily.
If it was the difference between 150 miles and 200 that would be a different value judgement because then it does start to affect the car’s ability to function as a car in winter temperatures and normal distances.
God bikeshare ebikes suck so much.
Hello, I’d like your worst frame with the cheapest motor, smallest wheels, wrong kind of tires, a sprocket with a non whole number of teeth and uhhhhh lemmie get two years of no maintenance other than a hose off and some touch up paint.
Honestly I think you’re right. A person making the choice about what to own free from any other constraints would be thinking like you. I think Chinas right to push people towards using lead acid on e-bikes in the face of lithium scarcity and trade restrictions too.
It’s just two different situations that indicate different choices.
Apropos of nothing, are you seeing usbc e-bike battery charging coming down the pike? I was seeing some rumblings a few years ago last time I built one.