• nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca
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    22 hours ago

    The solution is not to exclude, but to understand what got us here and start doing the work,

    The solution is entirely beyond you. There is no combination of words or actions you can take that will make commited non-voters give a shit. The only way past this now goes through an era of suffering.

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      22 hours ago

      It sounds to me like you haven’t actually talked to many of these people, or at least actively listened to them and tried to understand their concerns. Think this through. At what point do things get better if we don’t start changing how we do things now? What do you prefer to do, and/or suggest as a solution, if those two things are not one and the same?

      Edit: also idk about you but I’ve already been in an era of suffering, I’ve been disabled and marginalized and mistreated, and so have many others. To me, treating people as complex beings with layers upon layers of motivations and ideas and beliefs and sensitivities and so on is an important part of respect and I see it as necessary if we are ever going to be able to change how things work and end the global perpetuation of harm.

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        18 hours ago

        Think this through. At what point do things get better if we don’t start changing how we do things now? What do you prefer to do, and/or suggest as a solution, if those two things are not one and the same?

        I did think it through. What have you thought throu that convinced you that appealing to the better angels of their nature in just the right way is somehow the solution. There are 2 broad outcomes here. 1. The fascists just outright win. None of Trump’s incompetence matters, he just keeps plowing forward, and wins. After he does someone else takes over. 2. Things get bad enough fast enough for enough people that change is forced. In America , poor people caring about things isn’t enough. Rich people have to lose money for anything to happen AND things have to get back enough for everyone else that Americans stop sleepwalking and start paying attention in a way that Congress can’t ignore.

        Among these outcomes, 2 is the hopeful one. The best case scenario. Good luck.

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          16 hours ago

          Okay sounds like you prefer to do nothing productive while others work on solutions. If you are correct in your assumptions, I hope you’re preparing for what you believe is coming.