Summary

Trump just presided over one of the greatest diplomatic disasters in modern history, with flared tempers, raised voices, and shredded protocol.

Never before has a U.S. president bullied and berated an adversary, never mind an ally, in such a public way.

During a tense Oval Office meeting, Trump and JD Vance attacked Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, demanding he accept a peace deal with Russia or lose U.S. support.

The conversation devolved into shouting, with Trump accusing Zelenskyy of being ungrateful and “gambling with World War III.”

The meeting ended in chaos, with no agreement reached.

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    2 hours ago

    What get me is not only how Trump is destroying our country but how they defend him. He can do no wrong. Wow. I’m American and I stand firm with Ukraine. Glory to Ukraine!

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    2 hours ago

    I’m gonna say it out loud: you are all getting fooled like a bunch of idiots by trump and US government.

    USA government wants more war. Here you are praising war and that diplomacy has failed, you are playing government game.

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    3 hours ago

    I’m just sad that Zelensky needs to keep good relations with the US so that he can still get something from them, because I’m sure that otherwise he would have completely destroyed their arguments there.

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    3 hours ago

    Watching that made my stomach hurt. I’m so embarrassed. Not that I wasn’t before, but Jesus Christ. Every time he opens his mouth, every time I see a new article about the horrendous shit he’s doing, that rage from the election results comes back again. I feel like I have to watch it all, but this is so fucking painful.

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    4 hours ago

    That was painful to watch. Trump and Vence were pathetic and the end rambling about Biden, laptop, wtf was that? If Kamala did then same they would have taken her by force to a mental institution.

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    4 hours ago

    It’s kinda sad to see your big brother go down like this. We fought together for the last 100 years, and now he’s a shivering meth head.

    Don’t worry, we’ll deal with Putin, and then we can deal with your problems before China tries to pull a fast one.

  • Tezzerets_Tea_Time@lemmy.world
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    4 hours ago

    It would be wildly illegal for me to say what I think of, and wish for, both Trump and Vance, but I’m still gonna quietly pray to whoever is listening that it happens.

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      I’m not American but wouldn’t that mean Vance becomes president? It’s tempting to think he couldn’t be any worse, but trump likes the fucker so who knows?

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      Oh shit. I just got here. I see Lemmy is dangerously woke too. Wishing someone to die is rather nasty. I do agree putting that on tv was stupid, world leaders should do all their negotiating (bickering) behind closed doors.

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        3 hours ago

        We are woke and bang hot liberal chicks. You are an incel and masturbate to anime and the fantasy of having a tradwife, a fantasy that will never materialize. We are not the same.

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        It was put on TV on purpose to make Zelensky look weak and make the US look strong (it’s called propaganda) and so daddy Vlad can see that Trump is a good boy.

        I can happily confirm that the woke mind virus is alive and well on Lemmy.

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        3 hours ago

        Man life must be so fucking easy for you to never feel threatened by politicians. It’s all just a big TV show in your eyes isn’t it?

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        Not addressing the rest of the comment, but ”world leaders should discuss everything behind closed doors” is a dangerously shortsighted take. You do realize their job is to represent you, right? How do you think you can verify they are doing that if you are not allowed to see and hear what’s being said?

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          I mean, given this is the first time in history two world leaders have negotiated a peace treaty on live tv, yeah. That is not a good idea. They need to feel Free to argue and debate for hours without worrying about pride and pr in front of millions of people. But if you are saying transparency and showing every action on tv by presidents etc is good, then are you pro Donald trump? Because no previous president has been this transparent.

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        I someone blows up a thousand people themselves they are a murderer and its socially acceptable to want them punished. If someone causes thousands of deaths in politics or business we should somehow respect it?

        Hoping someone dies is the last thing left after morality is already dead.

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          I’m not sure what you are stating. I have watched ‘all quiet on the western front’ and remember being sickened by the bigwigs procrastinating over the leave treaty while every second people were dying. Great movie by the way. War fkn sucks.

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            37 minutes ago

            Russia started the war in Ukraine, so it seems like it is entirely Russia’s fault and Russia should end it, no?

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      @[email protected] said

      I can’t wait for Trump to die

      DANGER Will Robinson! we can’t threaten people here, not even oompaloompas.

      I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: I’m not a great shot, but at 130m firing from a prone position I would have made that shot 9 times out of 10. Heck, I had my family on the range firing a diemaco c7 (the colt Canada ar15) as part of a family appreciation day in my home guard company. They hadn’t shot more than an air rifle before, and after about three rounds each they shot killing shots at a silhuet at 200m.

      How that guy could miss is beyond me. Almost like it was intentional.