• AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net
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      3 days ago

      I know quite a few people who fit into that category, although I imagine they would take issue with how this meme characterises them.

      A widespread concern that I see is that paid peer review may make things worse via a perverse incentive. Consider, for example, paper mills, and the conditions that cause them to arise: Publish or Perish; poor pay in academic research; lack of stability of jobs in academic research (tenure Vs adjunct) etc… If we’re concerned about the quality of peer review, then it doesn’t seem unreasonable to be concerned that paying may exacerbate the problem.

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    4 days ago

    My dad is a chief editor in a scientific journal and rants to me about his day to day. I don’t think reviewers should be necessarily but the publications sure as shit should not be behind a fucking paywall.

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    Are there really any people in the middle who aren’t publishers? I find it hard to believe that any of the actual community members feel this way (well, specifically feel that their work should be free but publishers should be able to charge for their journals)

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    Paying people to review articles is just going to make things worse. The real problem is open access. In the current system the author of the manuscript has to pay to publish it, and the publisher turns around and asks readers to pay to access it. Its a scam. If research was conducted with any public money the knowledge generated should be public. This is why Elsevier needs to go. If you saw how much money institutions have to pump into these useless publishers to get access to knowledge funded by the public for the public there would be more outrage.

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    Adding extrinsic rewards for tasks like this can often introduce dark patterns eg maxing reviews to max rewards. It’s not as simple as “just pay someone to read papers.” As much as I detest academic publishers, it’s also not as simple as just throwing everything into open access (which we should do no matter what) and then having folks do it for the good of the community. There will have to be some experimentation with a balance of intrinsic and extrinsic rewards.

    In the US I directly pay for the funding for papers through tuition and taxes. I shouldn’t have to fucking pay a parasitic publisher on top of that just to access that shit. In math at least I don’t mind paying a little here and there for an MAA or AMS journal though.

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      It should be part of people’s jobs.

      As in, they are expected to do it, and get time to do it. And they probably should work within the publisher… that should probably be some consortium of academic institutions.

      You could easily implement some sortation between the universities and have the “winners” dedicate a day a month for 6 months to do it.

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      Well it’s not about incentive but because people deserve to be paid for their labor more than the publisher deserves to make profit. If we’re talking about the evils of financial incentives then we really should be looking at the publishers, not the people doing work for them.