Summary
Donald Trump rescinded sanctions imposed by the Biden administration on Israeli settler groups and individuals accused of violence against Palestinians in the West Bank.
The sanctions, established under Executive Order 14115 in 2024, targeted those “undermining peace, security, and stability” and froze U.S. assets of sanctioned individuals.
This marks a reversal of Biden’s policy aimed at curbing settler violence and supporting a two-state solution.
Trump’s decision aligns with his previous support for Israeli settlements, which most countries consider illegal under international law.
Pouring gas on genocides’ fires : at home and abroad. Rapist, felon and now genocider.
At least we don’t have Genocide Joe! (/s in case I actually need to write that)
At least centrists didn’t have to abandon their support for genocide.
Don’t misrepresent people’s views. If they’re wrong, you should easily be able to win the argument against even the best interpretation of their stance.
I’m not misrepresenting anything.
If that’s so, go ahead and point to a single person here that claimed to be an centrist and has provenly supported genocide.
Just pop open the modlog for this community. It’s right there in the sidebar. You won’t have to scroll very far to see blatant Islamophobia. But since you’ll declare victory without looking, I’ll dig through the cesspit for you. So you can have some links to dismiss without reading. Or read and make excuses for like a maga chud defending Elon Musk’s nazi salute.
https://lemmy.world/modlog/2840?page=1&userId=67131
https://lemmy.world/modlog/2840?page=1&userId=9982297
https://lemmy.world/modlog/2840?page=1&userId=11155727
Here’s three. You asked for one. Now move the goalposts.
Good job. Was hoping you’d find some, because nothing beats laughing at that smug, self induced back patting you seem to love doing when you people feel pompously righteous.
Now, go ahead and show proof that they’re centrists, and not just trolls.
Now move the goalposts.
Now, go ahead and show proof that they’re centrists, and not just trolls.
Called it.
Yea! We just had to teach bLueMagA a lesson at the polls this particular election cycle
Well the last elections had Bernie, so effort was spent on that option for change instead.
Funny how a decent choice of candidate can be the difference between promoting said candidate and promoting not voting at all. Almost like representation matters.
It’s analogous to sanctioning Pvt. Ivan McBlyat but leaving Putin untouched.
You fucked up, regardless of what you tell yourself now
And Lepards ate all of our faces, thanks progressives
So what’s your point?
Was this election so unimportant to the Democrats that they couldn’t pressure Israel into a ceasefire in October?
Biden had all the power for the past 15 months. Failing to deliver anything and claiming they are “working tirelessly” can only mean incompetence or deception on the part of Democrats.
Blaming Palestinian-Americsns for staying home when American bombs were killing their families is just such a weak take.
Was this election so unimportant that non-voters and 3rd party voters couldn’t be bothered to cast their vote in concert with those that would stand in the way of a dictator?
There’s FAR more at risk than a genocide. Take a look around for once.
You are talking about people who voted loyal to Democrats for decades, donated and campaigned.
The democratic party took their votes for granted and wasn’t even willing to talk to them.
This might come off as funny if it weren’t for the fact that “genocide Joe” is entirely fair.
After literal decades of trying to convince the Democratic establishment that being marginally better than the fascists isn’t “good enough”, I don’t personally have much tolerance for scolding voters. Maybe this election could have been won, but the eventual outcome was inevitable. Neoliberalism is woefully incapable of restraining fascism.
Yeah! So we should vote in fascism! And then actively rip apart the non fascists…. That will definitely create a great new liberal party right? So what’s the plan after the fascists take over?…… there is a great next step that will make the 4d chess move of electing the fascists make sense….tight?
Okay here’s the thing: Y’all need to either found a progressive third party or coopt the Democratic party. I don’t care which, but pick one, stick to it and actually make progress on it. The current dichotomy between neoliberals and fascists was always going to end with fascists winning. It’s simple math, really; if a Democrat in charge gets you X (could be 0, but let’s face it it’s some small but positive number) steps towards fascism and a Republican in charge gets you Y (>X) steps towards fascism then no matter how you look at it your only possible end state is fascism. To steer yourselves out of the fascism course you need to switch up the values such that on average you move away from fascism every election, and that ain’t happening with the current DNC leadership in charge. I don’t have the answer on how to overthrow neoliberals (though I do have my guesses) but y’all are driving full speed ahead towards fascism land and the “let’s decelerate a bit” party won’t change that.
It has to be a takeover of the Democratic party. Third party strategies are non-starters in a first past the post election system.
I think your assessment is 100% correct.
While a third party would have a long way to go (possibly never) before it can run for the presidency, I seriously think it’s possible to overthrow the two main parties in at least a few states and secure a foothold in Congress, like Bernie did but on a larger scale. Let’s also not forget the impact of state and local politics. The spoiler effect definitely complicates things, but I don’t think it’s any more of a problem than the fossils running the DNC.
It has to be a takeover of the Democratic party.
Who and which billionaire would do that?
There is no savior coming. That’s what grass roots movements are for. It’s gotta be the people.
I know it’s an unpopular opinion, but I hate the term “Genocide Joe”:
- it doesn’t put enough fault on Netanyahu
- its an in group term, if you are in the group you know what it means, if not its either has no meaning, or is taken too literally/incorrectly.
- The middle east is a mess, we make it worse in every attempt to improve it, but some of those religiously using this phrase I don’t think want peace, just wish a different group was winning. This is a small subset of those using the phrase, but seem to be driving the political outcome by an oversized amount.
See the expression should be Netanyahu is treating the Palestinians like Hitler did the Jews. So why are we [Joe/Harris] so blindly following this.
And I know the political answer to this is Joe/Harris were trying to use there position for political pressure… I’d say it failed but they did get a last min ceasefire, so history may prove otherwise.
Same shit if you’re Palestinian eh?
But hey glad to know you can live with supporting genocide abroad as long as you’re not bothered at home.
… they said while supporting more genocide
Where are my lemmygrad Russian trolls now???
I see a lot of neoliberal fascist democrats in this thread, seeing a lot more of them on lemmy.world now. They’ll sooner blame a “tankie” on the internet than their own beloved party who sold out to fascists. Neolibs still haven’t figured out that red/blue are just two sides of the same fascist coin, and are quick to turn on other leftists (because they’re actually right wing af)
EDIT - Just to add, can’t wait to see you neolib Democrats side with fascists out of convenience and self preservation. Oh wait you’re already doing it.
I heard Kamala’s policy is bad for Palestinian from here and also the Palestinian community in US. Happy now?
I’d sure be happy if we were just starting Bernie’s second term. With third way neoliberalism still firmly in control of the Democrats, an eventual fall to fascists was inevitable. It just happened to be this election.
I voted for Bernie twice. But he couldn’t even come close to beating Hillary when she’s was handcuffed to an fbi investigation. Also, it’s hilarious you think he wouldn’t lose a second term in a similar fashion to Carter vs Reagan.
In 2016 Bernie we was running as an issue candidate. Nobody, including Bernie expected him to become a serious contender against the anointed one. He came far closer than expected, close enough for Hillary to never quit whining about it. There is also no such thing as “close” in a primary because once the media declared a winner, the remaining states all avalanche to the expected nominee.
It’s hilarious that you think Carter and Bernie are all that similar. Carter was the first of the neoliberal Democrats. He had integrity, unlike the Democrats to follow, and he was solidly non-interventionist, but that’s pretty much where the similarities end. Carter never had the popularity that Bernie has maintained for over a decade. No Democrat since FDR can match that.
Unbelievable that people still think that Bernie lost to Hillary in a fair fight.
He pretty much did. Corporate media did him dirty, but revolutions have to assume that will be the case. I don’t give establishment Democrats any slack when they whine about media coverage or voter apathy, so I don’t give progressives any either. We gotta win a game that we know is to some extent rigged.
The only real way to curb settlers violence and support a two state solution is no more weapon at all to israel and global sanctions on the israeli state itself. Something the two genocidal parties would never do
Wow, you just solved world peace. Congratulations!
Better than your solution of keeping supporting Israel
Point to me saying I do. Show me exactly when and where I made that statement.
Edit. Look at that, not one person is able to do it.
My comment was advocating to sanction Israel as a whole because it’s the Israeli government who is financing the settlers and even arms them and stop giving miliary aids to Israel that are used to kill Palestinians and all you did was making a dumb joke about my comment https://www.hrw.org/news/2024/04/17/west-bank-israel-responsible-rising-settler-violence
Yes. You are right on both accounts.
That in no way means I have any “solution of keeping supporting Israel”. Don’t put words in my mouth just because it’s the only issue you care about.You seem like a person of sound mind and steady judgment.
Why is that, because I’ve been accused of something I never said?
The 53 days have started.
This is so terrifyingly close to what we see in the US… Is this an accurate representation of the historical facts? Is this really not historical manipulation to sound like what is happening today? I cannot discern truth from lies here :'(
I have my anti-confirmation-bias-bias activating strong while reading this article
edit: raising suspicion is that I could not find evidence that nazis used “draining the swamp” refering to the parliament
According to the author about page: Timothy W. Ryback is a historian and director of the Institute for Historical Justice and Reconciliation in The Hague. He is the author of several books on Hitler’s Germany
Hitler opened the meeting by boasting that millions of Germans had welcomed his chancellorship with “jubilation,” then outlined his plans for expunging key government officials and filling their positions with loyalists. At this point he turned to his main agenda item: the empowering law that, he argued, would give him the time (four years, according to the stipulations laid out in the draft of the law) and the authority necessary to make good on his campaign promises to revive the economy, reduce unemployment, increase military spending, withdraw from international treaty obligations, purge the country of foreigners he claimed were “poisoning” the blood of the nation, and exact revenge on political opponents. “Heads will roll in the sand,” Hitler had vowed at one rally.
Sounds about right in line
So, Israel bought a bunch of his coins?
This marks a reversal of Biden’s policy aimed at curbing settler violence and supporting a two-state solution.
He’s gone, you don’t have to keep pandering to his fake ass policy that totally wasn’t full send arms to Israel for 15 months. Blinken clocked out as well.
Not to mention we were all here when these sanctions got announced, rescinded, and then reannounced, in case it wasn’t already clear a few settlers would likely never be traveling to the USA.
He’s gone, you don’t have to keep pandering to his fake ass policy that totally wasn’t full send arms to Israel for 15 months
At least it was something. Trump full on recognized the settlements, giving legitimacy and urging Netanyahu to escalate further. You don’t need to pretend like you havent completely fucked over every palestinian by not voting Harris.
So far Trump got a ceasefire. That is infinitely better for Palestine than anything that Biden did.
Biden got a ceasefire. The deal went through days before Trump got in. He did fuck all except win, thus creating favorable conditions for Bibi. Read a book
“Read a book” - sure, let’s read something. How about the fact that Trump’s envoy visited Gaza like 10 days before. How about the fact that Biden did fuckall for the entirety of the time about it. How about the fact that the deal is the exact same as the one that Israel rejected in November.
But sure, it was Biden (who literally called himself a zionist, who literally promised his daddy to support Israel no matter what), he just really wanted a few more months of genocide before Israel was kindly asked to cut the shit and decided to stop. And he did it on the very last few days of the presidency, just for the memes.
I don’t think even the most talented surgeon can get your head out of your ass, I’m sorry.
Let’s read this! Sure seems like Trump’s “envoy” had no business engaging in diplomacy with a foreign power. Not that we’ll ever see his administration punished for anything, given how many of you fuckers seem to crawl out of the woodwork anytime anyone is slightly less than worshipful of Daddy Trump.
Moving the goalposts now aren’t we? First of all, I’m not a fan of Trump. I just don’t deepthroat Biden just because he has a “D” next to his name. I just give credit where it’s due - orange man got a ceasefire.
